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To: donh
I'm fairly used to self-declared winners.

As I 'd imagine you would be. :-)

Whether or not the Pope was anti-nazi, there is still no reasonable explanation

Sure there is. It's called human nature. Think of the present sex scandals.

What should be remarked on is the opposition to Hitler and the Jews saved for great risk and no gain. That's should be considered "unhuman." In other words, Godly.

And what you should do is worry about how you would behave if presented with a moral dilemma in which you were required to make a decision that would cause your death or the death of some innocent person if your decision should be made thoughtlessly, or even correctly.

How many buildings in the Vatican were dedicated to kidnapping christian children from their parents to be raised jewish, without the law seeing anything untoward about that?

Let God judge Pope Pius IX.

1,503 posted on 12/10/2002 5:35:56 PM PST by Tribune7
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To: Tribune7
What should be remarked on is the opposition to Hitler and the Jews saved for great risk and no gain. That's should be considered "unhuman." In other words, Godly.

By the same logic, perhaps we should award medals to serial rapist-killers for sparing some of their victims occasionally.

1,507 posted on 12/11/2002 12:24:08 PM PST by donh
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To: Tribune7
And what you should do is worry about how you would behave if presented with a moral dilemma in which you were required to make a decision that would cause your death or the death of some innocent person if your decision should be made thoughtlessly, or even correctly.

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How many buildings in the Vatican were dedicated to kidnapping christian children from their parents to be raised jewish, without the law seeing anything untoward about that?

Let God judge Pope Pius IX.

There's a phrase for this mode of reasoning: Moral abdication.

1,508 posted on 12/11/2002 12:27:41 PM PST by donh
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To: Tribune7
What should be remarked on is the opposition to Hitler and the Jews saved for great risk and no gain. That's should be considered "unhuman." In other words, Godly.

Gee, almost as many as Rauel Wallenberg operating from a basement with printing press, on an attache's salary? Even the churches most imaginative apologists can't manage to chaulk up one oven's worth of saved jews. How does that stack up beside telling all priests in Germany to shut their yaps about saving jews from Hitler, actively packing for the ovens in Slovokia, handing over the marriage records to the SS, and inventing mass absolution so that the SS could continue their work unhindered by spiritual qualms?

1,509 posted on 12/11/2002 12:36:52 PM PST by donh
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