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To: Travis McGee; Squantos; SLB; Fred Mertz; harpseal; sneakypete; Nam Vet; Chapita; tet68; COB1; ...
Trav, IMHO you called this type of thing months and months ago.

People don't undrerstand that you don't have to be an "official" member of the terror group to be a terrorist for them.

We'll see where the ties lead ... but the fact that he is radical, spoke highly of their mass murder and agrees with their interpertation of their religion is all that is required with these people to send them off to war ... against our wives, our children and all of us.

He is a terrorist and this is clearly directly terror related IMHO ... I pray the government, irrespective of their pronouncements to the public, sees it for what it is and takes it that way. I pray they would enlist the citizens in helping prevent these issues rather than trying to keep "the herd" in the dark.

How many of those people exist do you suppose in this country? In Islam ... a lot ... and Islam isn't just "over there" anymore. There are millions in the pool here.

I hope this guy and his accomplices fry. If the rifle matches, I will believe they got him for sure. I pray they got them all in this little band (aka cell). I pray others don't begin popping up all over.

ARM THE PEOPLE - NOW!

Mind your knot ... check six.

16 posted on 10/24/2002 5:57:01 AM PDT by Jeff Head
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To: Jeff Head
People don't undrerstand that you don't have to be an "official" member of the terror group to be a terrorist for them.

We'll see where the ties lead ...

It's early yet... as this investigation unfolds, keep an eye out for the word : "Jamaat," as in Jamaat al Fuqra, Jamaat al Islam, or Jamaat al Tabligh. They are front groups for elements within Pakistan's ISI that are shoulder to shoulder with the Taliban and Al Qaeda.

Other camps like this have been linked to Pakistan, so we'll see. Check this out...

Amongst the alleged members of the TJ (Tablighi Jamaat) in the Muslim community in the US is Mr.Louis Fara Khan, the Black Muslim leader. The TJ operates in the US and the Caribbean directly through its own preachers deputed from Pakistan and also recruited from the Pakistani immigrant community in the US as well as through front organisations such as the Jamaat-ul-Fuqra founded in the 1980s under the leadership of Sheikh Mubarik Ali Gilani, who generally lives in Pakistan, but travels frequently to the US and the Caribbean.

The annual report on the Patterns of Global Terrorism during 1998 issued by the Counter-Terrorism Division of the US State Department states as follows of the Jamaat-ul-Fuqra: "Seeks to purify Islam through violence. Members have purchased isolated rural compounds in North America to live communally, practise their faith and insulate themselves from Western culture. Fuqra members have attacked a variety of targets that they view as enemies of Islam, including Muslims they regard as heretics and Hindus. Attacks during the 1980s included assassinations and fire bombings across the US. Fuqra members in the US have been convicted of criminal violations, including murder and fraud."
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20 posted on 10/24/2002 6:00:33 AM PDT by Sabertooth
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To: Jeff Head
I don't think I can listen to more....

FOX just said...

"Under arrest......a Gulf War veteran and a 17 year old kid".............

a Gulf War veteran being the first description of the guy!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!

21 posted on 10/24/2002 6:01:27 AM PDT by Guenevere
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To: Jeff Head
BUMP!
23 posted on 10/24/2002 6:02:12 AM PDT by phasma proeliator
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To: Jeff Head
How many of those people exist do you suppose in this country? In Islam ... a lot ... and Islam isn't just "over there" anymore. There are millions in the pool here.

Time to clean out the pool.

Stay well - Stay safe - Stay armed - Yorktown

27 posted on 10/24/2002 6:08:23 AM PDT by harpseal
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To: Jeff Head
If Nation of Islam types and all other "bad" muslims are supporting this atrocity then I want Calypso Louies head on a pike along with those who support such.

And to all who think these two POS killers were "lashing out" against oppression or some BS idealism that validates shooting women and children and other non combatants need to be called, collected , prosecuted ,punished and if still alive after all of that .....deported..... as exactly what they really are...... Terrorist Trash .........

Stay Safe !

37 posted on 10/24/2002 6:13:12 AM PDT by Squantos
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To: Jeff Head
Jeff, looks like some of the smug posters from the thread yesterday get to eat crow, apparently a favorite dish for some of them. It ain't the "angry white guy" and I shudder to think how many more just like them are around. You could get an idea, I suppose, by attending any Farrakan rally.

FReegards

47 posted on 10/24/2002 6:22:48 AM PDT by MileHi
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To: Jeff Head
People don't undrerstand that you don't have to be an "official" member of the terror group to be a terrorist for them.

Jeff,from what is known so far,these guys aren't terrorists. Terrorism has a political/religious goal,and the goal of these two seemed to be profit. This makes them nothing more than regular criminals. The fact that they are Muslims means nothing.

I have no doubt that by the time their trial starts they will have morphed into "true believer Muslims",though. That way they can try to claim "political prisoner" status,and gain a little sympathy from the ignorant.

107 posted on 10/24/2002 7:27:59 AM PDT by sneakypete
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To: Jeff Head
Trav, IMHO you called this type of thing months and months ago.

I remember Trav saying that too.

203 posted on 10/24/2002 9:25:42 AM PDT by WRhine
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