Posted on 10/24/2002 5:12:32 AM PDT by Thane_Banquo
Preparing for Jihad ? in Alabama
Islamic Militant Training Camp Allegedly Operating in Alabama
July 25 ? A training camp linked to Islamic militants has been operating in Alabama, and European law enforcement officials believe Muslim extremists were using it to prepare for a holy war.
British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws, sources told ABCNEWS. The looming question for law enforcement is whether there is a connection between the camp and the al Qaeda terror network.
An investigation by Britain's Scotland Yard led to the discovery of the camp in Marion, Ala. The facility is called "Ground Zero USA."
Bullet-riddled police cars and a school bus with mannequin targets are scattered around the property. Inside a huge shed is an equally macabre scene ? shot-up mannequins, male and female, in domestic settings, some with red, blood-like stains on them.
Ground Zero's operators promised state-of-the-art, world-class training in automatic weapons, urban warfare, SWAT tactics and martial arts, supposedly to fight terror attacks.
Marion Police Chief Tony Buford said he became suspicious of the use of police cars and buses as targets.
"It was rumored that the camp here was used as training site for possible people that were sent here to do bodily harm to Americans," Buford told ABCNEWS.
Web Site Provides Terror Link
The suspected terror ties of the Alabama camp were unknown until after Sept. 11, when officials in London arrested an accused al Qaeda supporter, Zain-ul-Albidin
He is charged with operation of a Web site, under the name of Sakina Security, allegedly recruiting Muslims for an Islamic jihad or holy war. He is now on trial in London.
The site, since taken down by British authorities, described what seemed to be the Alabama camp, including live-fire exercises at a state-of-the-art shooting range in the United States ? something that would not be legal in Britain.
"In the United States, it is not illegal for anyone to receive military training, high-grade military training," said Rohan Gunaratna, author of Inside Al Qaeda.
The actual owners of camp, who are also British, say it was used primarily to train law enforcement personnel. Officials consider them unwitting accomplices. The camp owners declined to talk to ABCNEWS.
Scale of Secret Camps Unknown
It is not known how many holy war recruits came through the camp or when. But the FBI is now investigating a number of suspected training camps around the country.
"We know of a number of cases where Islamic terrorists came and training in this country in the early 1990s. It is likely that this scale of training is still continuing," Gunaratna said.
The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."
British intelligence officials told ABCNEWS they are closely examining alleged ties between Hamza, who is said to have recruited alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, and Zain-ul-Albidin.
You miss the point entirely: If they're making a conscious choice to join a political movement that seeks to violently overthrow the United States Government through acts of terrorism, sedition, etc.. then get them out of the country. Declare Islam what it is: a political movement/party that seeks to undermine our Government and way of life.
Why is that so hard for you to understand?
So, let's just ignore the Constitution and deport all the angry black Jamaican guys. I gotcha.
Game, set, match.
Your failure to understand Islam's violent tendencies in the 20th and 21st centuries have been duly noted. No other religion on the planet does what Islam does. Islam seeks to propagate itself through over-breeding and brute force (acts of terrorism & war.) You apparently don't understand this.
At first, I thought you were playing stupid, but your post #3 proved you weren't playing.
I have no desire to engage you further.
Sweet Home Islamabama
The Koran I keep on Learnin
Carry me home to see my virgins
Singing songs about the Muslims
I miss Allah Bami once again
And I think its a sin, yes
Well I heard mister Fallwell sing about her
Well, I heard Robertson put her down
Well, I hope Jerry Fallwell will remember
A Christian man don't need him around anyhow.
Sweet home Islamabama
Where the training camps are cool.
Sweet Home Islamabama
Allah, I'm coming home to you.
In Birmingham we love to Jihad
Did all the training we could do.
Now killing innocents does not bother me
Does your conscience bother you?
Tell the truth
Sweet home Islamabama
Where the training camps are cool.
Sweet Home Islamabama
Allah, I'm coming home to you.
Now CNN has got the story
It's got to be a white man or two.
Allah, they will protect us so much
They lie for me you know it's true
Now how about you?
Sweet home Allahbama
Where the training camps are cool
Sweet Home Islamabama
Allah, I'm coming home to you
And why would the owner of a terrorist camp lie, right?
/sarcasm
This upstanding citizen had been on the news after the murder saying thanking the community for its support in his time of grief.
His wife was a local girl from Jerome, Idaho. She was a convert from Christianity to Islam. He and his wife had recently helped raise awareness of Islam and Muslims in our community and helped in "diversity" training for airport staff so that Muslims would not be unjustly profiled...I agree with others, in that, I have yet to see any Muslim from anywhere speak out publicly against these acts of terrorism against Israel, the United States and humanity in general. If they do condemn the attacks, it is only with the caveat that we brought it on ourselves...PURE BULL. They committed the acts of their own accord, we did not force them into it.
Check out www.idahostatesman.com and type in Abdulla or Abdullah to find out more about this story that has yet to make national news even though it is better than two weeks old.
LOL. 20th and 21st? Islam's been a pain in the behind of many civilizations, dating as far back as the 8th century. Indeed, Islam is not nearly as violent today as it used to be. Today's Islam is infinitely weaker.
I didn't say they were; at the time I posted more facts weren't known.
What points are there to disagree with? The newspapers have mentioned Islamic, international (illegal immigrant from Jamaica), terroristic. Not every Islamic terrorist has a laminated Al-Qaeda card with plastic membership ring.
Point is: if they followed bad business practices, they deserve what they get.
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