A Few of FR's Finest....Every Day....10-24-02

dansangel and Billie

[dansangel]

Good Morning (afternoon to you!) Ivan!

I hope you like it. I want to thank YOU for agreeing to be profiled. We need many, many more like you "across the pond" to show the America-haters here that the US is not all wrong in its fight against terrorism.

God Bless you and all of your countrymen who support the US!

[Happygal]

Yes, dansangel, thanks for a great profile about a great guy :-) (even if he is a limey git! *LOL*)

[dansangel]

(even if he is a limey git! *LOL*)

Ooohhhh feed me more of these neat adjectives! Then, I can ***insult*** flamers on other threads....and they won't even know it!

LOL!

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[lodwick]

[dansangel]

I have been SO waiting for this, loddie! Thank-you!

(something about getting up earlier than usual to post a thread...heheheheheh)

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[Happygal]

Ooohhhh feed me more of these neat adjectives! Then, I can ***insult*** flamers on other threads....and they won't even know it!

I'm not sure I dare!!!! *L*

Just in case Ivan starts to hurl a few colloquialisms in my direction!! *LOL* ;-)

[.45MAN]

Gongratulations to a truly original person. Have a Great day, or at least rest of a day, your a few hours ahead of us....

[ladtx]

In memory of my fellow Vietnam helicopter pilots who were killed in that war the following were lost on todays date. God bless them all.

1968 WO1 Richard S. Riley Jr. -- C/101 AVN, Age 23, Elizabeth, New Jersey
1970 CPT Craig B.Schiele -- 21 SOS, Age 27, Steubenville, Ohio

This narration is from the Arlington National Cemetery website concerning CPT Schiele.

Remains ID'd as Vietnam-era fliers
June 4, 2002

The remains of two Chicago-area airmen killed in a risky Laotian mission during the Vietnam War have been identified and will be buried this week at Arlington National Cemetery, the Pentagon said Monday.

Air Force Master Sergeant Thomas E. Heideman and Captain Craig B. Schiele were killed October 24, 1970, while serving as crew members of a CH-3E "Black Maria" helicopter sent to rescue friendly forces from Laotian territory.

Piloted by Schiele, their helicopter was the lead ship of a two-aircraft contingent carrying out the rescue at a time when large-scale North Vietnamese forces were operating in Laos.

The friendly Laotian troops were taken aboard, but, shortly after takeoff, Schiele's helicopter crashed in dense jungle. Eight Laotians and two American servicemen survived the crash and were quickly rescued, but a second attempt aimed at retrieving Schiele and Heideman could not be mounted until the following morning.

The partial remains of one of the two fliers were recovered and later identified as Schiele. They were buried at his family's request in Bartlesville, Oklahoma. His only sister, Lynne Schiele of Hazel Crest, who was four years younger, said her brother, who was 27 at the time of his death, was buried in the family plot of his wife, Margery, in her hometown of Bartlesville.

In 1994 the remains of Master Sergeant Heideman were recovered and interred at Arlington National Cemetery in June, 2002.

A Sikorsky CH-3E 'Jolly Green Giant" as flown by CPT Schiele.

IN THE SHADOW OF THE BLADE

SCOUTS OUT!

[dansangel]

Just in case Ivan starts to hurl a few colloquialisms in my direction!! *LOL* ;-)

But that's the best way for me to learn! When I was very small, my grandparents would switch to Italian (their native language) when they didn't want me to "hear" what they were saying.

It backfired....I could cuss in Italian as well as I could speak English by the time I was 5!!! LOL!

[MadIvan]

Just in case Ivan starts to hurl a few colloquialisms in my direction!! *LOL* ;-)

As if I would. ;)

tart tart tart tart tart...

Love, Ivan

[dansangel]

Good Morning ladtx!

Thank-you for your remembrance of our fallen heroes. May God have them tucked safely by His side and may the Schiele family gain peace and closure by the return of their loved one's remains.

How awful they had to wait so long. The man whose MIA bracelet I wore as a teenager, Staff Sergeant Richard A. Fitts, remains were not returned to his family until 1990. So many families have had to wait agonizingly long years to put their loved ones to final rest.

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[ladtx]

Congratulations MadIvan. I have always enjoyed your view from across the pond. They are clear, unambiguous and best of all, conservative. A breath of fresh air. You always bring clarity to the discussions here, a real credit to the forum.

SCOUTS OUT!

[dansangel]

[writing furiously]

"limey git"
"tart"

Ohhhhh, this is good........

[MadIvan]

In reference to the Clintons and Gores, it's useful to remember a term like "prat", which is equivalent to saying "jerk" in America. But I think it's more effective.

Say it a few times:

"Bill Clinton is an utter prat."

Regards, Ivan

[ladtx]

It is amazing how science has progressed and can help identify remains so long after the deaths have occurred. It must bring a bitter-sweet relief to the families.

[MadIvan]

My sincere thanks for your kind words.

Regards, Ivan

[lodwick]

Salute!

[dansangel]

I don't have the details in front of me, but back when SSgt Fitts' remains were identified and sent home, the family of another soldier who perished in the same crash contested the findings. They had the remains analyzed by an independent forensics lab.

I'm going to have to look up that story because I can't remember what the outcome was.

But, yes, indeed it is amazing what science can achieve.

[dansangel]

I found an article and time has clouded my memory;

Task Force Synopsis

It seems the family of the other soldier contested the remains, but did not have them re-analyzed. The whole thing is just so sad.

[Molly Pitcher]

Great profile, dansangel!

Ivan, I think most of us have had our fantasy meetings with the great Ronald Reagan....God Bless him.