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Sniper-Related Warrants Issued In Alabama
nbc13.com ^ | 10/23/02

Posted on 10/23/2002 8:25:40 PM PDT by ds2000

Sniper-Related Warrants Issued In Alabama
Authorities Search Suspected Terrorist Training Camp

POSTED: 10:05 p.m. CDT October 23, 2002
UPDATED: 10:18 p.m. CDT October 23, 2002

BIRMINGHAM, Ala. -- Search warrants related to the D.C.-area sniper case were served Wednesday in various parts of the country, including the state of Alabama.

Sources told NBC13 that federal authorities from Montgomery were in the city of Marion in Perry County Wednesday night, armed with a warrant, and were searching property.

The search warrants are reportedly for a terror camp called "Ground Zero," which is located in Marion. The camp was discovered earlier this year following the Sept. 11, 2001, terror attacks in New York.

At the time, authorities thought militants from overseas trained at Ground Zero. There has been no official connection between the camp and the al-Qaida terror network. The owner of the camp said it was a training area for police officers.

NBC13 spoke with camp owner Mark Yates, of Tuscaloosa, who says he knows nothing of any investigation into his camp. Perry County Sheriff James Hood also told NBC13 federal authorities have not contacted him.

The Alabama search warrants were issued hours after authorities started searching a property in Tacoma, Wash. NBC13 has also learned that an Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms agent from Alabama is assisting in the investigation in Tacoma.

Sources are describing the issuance of Wednesday's warrants both in Washington state and in Alabama as attempts to follow up on "solid leads."

Developments in this story are unfolding. NBC13 News and NBC13.com will have the latest details on the sniper search and the possible Alabama connection as they become available.


TOPICS: Breaking News; News/Current Events; US: Alabama; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: alabama; alfuqra; blackmuslims; campgroundzero; jamaatalfuqra; newblackpanthers; oldblackpanthers; sniper
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To: Howlin
The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."

As it should be..."A well-regulated militia...."

How does our militia become well-regulated if it cannot train itself?

121 posted on 10/23/2002 10:47:06 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: wardaddy; RJayneJ; blam; Dog Gone; Travis McGee; Lazamataz
"Tonight on all the cable news outlets(including FOX) one would need circus stilts to wade thru all the BS...especially the "it's gotta be middle aged white guys in cammo" mantra."

They're fools, and it will all come back to haunt and mock them. First of all, the sniper killed people of all races and gender EXCEPT black females. Second, the witnesses repeatedly claimed that the killers appeared brown-skinned (which made me think of most foreign Islamists). Then the media claimed that the killer was between 20 and 30 years old. Ridiculous! 20 to 30 year old white guys are the Y-Generation, known for instant gratification rather than "one shot; one kill" discipline.

So now as the truth finally eases away from the medias' biases, we see that the shooters are Richard-Reid-Shoe-Bomber-Style Jamaicans, black, one under 18 and the other over 40, using a credit card taken from a woman killed (per the police by a .22, but that's strikingly similar in size to a .223) in an Alabama liquor store robbery in the Black Belt, where the infamous murdering muslim (and noted LEFT-WING black panther) H Rap Brown tried to hide out just before his arrest.

So the press has pulled yet another Richard Jewell / Steven Hatfill "it must be the right-wing white guy" nonsense yet again, but this time the actuall killers are not only known, but completely opposite from what the press and police claimed that they'd be.

This case will have people discrediting police profiles and media speculation for generations to come.

122 posted on 10/23/2002 10:48:11 PM PDT by Southack
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To: ds2000
LIVE Now. Yates on CNN
123 posted on 10/23/2002 10:48:32 PM PDT by Gracey
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To: Grampa Dave
Political Correctness in America as we have seen how it has infected the mediots, the police chiefs, the spokesmouths of law enforcement and the liberal governors around DC will kill all of us unless we bury it.

As well as our president who says "Islam is a religion of peace". Who also has seen fit to continue to allow immigration from ME terrorist harboring nations despite 9/11. Who still cannot find the backbone to enforce our nation's immigration laws. Who still refuses to protect our borders from the mass invasion of illegal immigration from Mexico. Who is still pushing for Amnesty for Illegal Aliens under section 245(i). Who has instructed our LEOs not to profile ME immigrants in our nation's airports even if they appear "suspicious". Who has signed legislation granting welfare for non-citizens.

Hey Gramps, again, at what point will you be honest enough, while you are on your PC jihad, to admit that George Bush is not much better than your average democrat?

124 posted on 10/23/2002 10:48:49 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: woofie; MHGinTN
MGH may have the answer to your question here. "Activated the like-minded al Fuqra cells around the country."

Was The Duck in a Noose, a code to the other al Fuqra cells in America, and in particuliar in the Blue Urban areas that voted for the Goron to start their programs of killing!

Or it was a signal that that he needs help to escape from his hiding place.

Regardless it was obviously a code that was thought out and pre planned to convey a message to his fellow al Fuqras.


125 posted on 10/23/2002 10:50:16 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Demidog
"Next up: Gunsite, AZ. I thought it would be at least until Bush was out of office before the ATF and the "Patriot Act" were directed at lawfull gun owners and their training areas and gun ranges. But nope. It's going to happen under Bush himself. Isn't this lovely."

What are you smoking?! Weren't you the one who claimed that there was no such weapon as an AK-74? Now you can't even see that this case is going to set back the Left for generations. Left-wing Black Panthers. Alabama Black Belt. Black snipers. Wrong police profiles. Wrong media speculation, etc.

126 posted on 10/23/2002 10:51:29 PM PDT by Southack
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To: SowellRocks
It sounded like a code to me for activation of more of the same, or it was a request to help get him out of his hole where he is hiding.

If they have this guy spotted and being watched, it would be good for his buddies to come and try to rescue him.

If they don't, it appears to be another mistake. The guys with Moose in the black suits tonight are with ATF if I'm not mistaken. I saw one giving a PC interview on Fox early today.
127 posted on 10/23/2002 10:54:05 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: SowellRocks
Moose just unintentionally gave the go-ahead for a major terrorist attack by relaying the "duck in a noose" statement. Just speculation, of course, but it sure seems like code to me.

OMG give me a break...people - TIN FOIL HATS ON PLEASE - NOW!!!! Sorry but that is just ridiculous.

128 posted on 10/23/2002 10:54:11 PM PDT by Lucas1
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To: WRhine
Are you Jake Reno in DRag? Give it a rest and go to DU or the Deformed Party help line!
129 posted on 10/23/2002 10:55:35 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Southack
What are you smoking?!

I smoke American Spirit non-filtered if you're planning a gift.

Otherwise, I say that this training camp in Alabama is legitimate just as Gunsite is and this will be the first of several raids on such training sites by the ATF.

They are going after his client list. They will sieze all of his guns. And they'll do this while freepers and other "conservatives" believe the same media that they have been chiding when they say that the sites are "terrorist training camps." All terrorist all the time. Goodbye guns. Too dangerous. This is a different era now. The era of terrorism. People cannot be trusted with them.

And the "conservatives" will not only roll over like submissive dogs, they will cheer each and every raid. "Finally! They're doing something to make us safe!"

130 posted on 10/23/2002 10:57:56 PM PDT by Demidog
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To: Grampa Dave
Are you Jake Reno in DRag? Give it a rest and go to DU or the Deformed Party help line!

Can't handle my questions I see. Really, it's jokers like you that strike me as DU operatives. No, in your case, you fit the mold of a useful idiot quite well.

131 posted on 10/23/2002 10:59:30 PM PDT by WRhine
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To: Grampa Dave
Is Moose out front of what is clearly a major FBI investigation because he is black?
132 posted on 10/23/2002 11:00:17 PM PDT by woofie
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To: WRhine
I would never take you serious for a milli second. Your hatred of our president and the republican party makes you irrelevant on a conservative board.

Your candidate for president lost in 2000 and didn't get a single electoral vote. You and your ilk are irrelevant.

Now go snipe at someone else and defend Political Correctness, which you seem to love.
133 posted on 10/23/2002 11:02:58 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: woofie
The first murders happened in his area. I don't know what the story is now. It appears that the sniper is or has been trying to communicate with him.
134 posted on 10/23/2002 11:05:10 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: SowellRocks
Thomas Sowell does Rock!
135 posted on 10/23/2002 11:06:48 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Lucas1
What is your theory regarding sniper's determination to have the chief say that exact phrase?
136 posted on 10/23/2002 11:08:12 PM PDT by SowellRocks
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To: Grampa Dave; Howlin; Himyar
Good grief! I was born and raised just over the state line in Mississippi. It's been many years since I roamed this area of Alabama, but I can't believe it's come to this! After reading all of the links posted on various threads, checking their dates, etc. I am totally perplexed as to how this could have happened.

"Whitehall between Selma and Montgomery that is a hot bed of muslim stuff."

Whitehall??? Amazing...

Gramps, I read the threads on al Fuqra...I can't believe it's happening in a place I love so dearly. What's so sad is that I may be more safe in the Portland Metro area...at least they've started rounding them up here.

Howlin and Himyar, I know this is waaay off topic but, the first thing I thought when I accepted the reality that the South is a hotbed of terrorism was...

I wonder what they think of grits?

137 posted on 10/23/2002 11:09:35 PM PDT by dixiechick2000
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To: Grampa Dave
Indeed. I'm surprised Belefonte didn't get around to including him, Walter Williams, and Clarence Thomas in his recent racist rant. Black Conservatives are the bravest people in the world today.
138 posted on 10/23/2002 11:11:28 PM PDT by SowellRocks
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To: Demidog
"They are going after his client list. They will sieze all of his guns. And they'll do this while freepers and other "conservatives" believe the same media that they have been chiding when they say that the sites are "terrorist training camps." All terrorist all the time. Goodbye guns."

Rubbish. Local cops shoot at that range, which is why the local sheriff notified authorities that Ground Zero had some foreigners coming in shooting up a police car, which pissed him off. It's safe to say that the local clients, ie cops, aren't going to have their weapons confiscated by feds.

The owner of that range voluntarily turned over his client list in a trial in London, so that client list can't be "seized" as he gave it up voluntarily.

Nor is anyone going to disarm Alabama, especially over some Jamaican Black Muslims.

You clearly don't know Alabama.

Moreover, if terrorists ARE using legitimate shooting ranges, then they still don't get to skate. They still get locked up.

That's what the good guys do. They lock up the bad guys, even if the bad guys share a common pasttime with the good guys for honing their shooting skills.

139 posted on 10/23/2002 11:11:44 PM PDT by Southack
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To: Grampa Dave
I would never take you serious for a milli second. Your hatred of our president and the republican party makes you irrelevant on a conservative board.

Since when is "conservative" considered to be synonymous with "republican"? For your info I campaigned, supported and voted for the guy currently in the oval office. Look it up in the FR achieves and call me a liar. If you unable to look it up I'm sure many of your buddies would be more than willing to do this.

Your candidate for president lost in 2000 and didn't get a single electoral vote. You and your ilk are irrelevant.

LOL, is this a substitute for answering my questions about Bush's obvious Political Correctness?

140 posted on 10/23/2002 11:17:19 PM PDT by WRhine
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