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Sniper Search near Seattle (digging for evidence)
Local NBC News Channel | Oct 23, 02 | MSNBC

Posted on 10/23/2002 4:20:21 PM PDT by spycatcher

MSNBC reporting sniper related digging and searching of a building in Tacoma WA. FBI is involved. May be related to something the sniper told police


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia; US: Washington
KEYWORDS: search; sniper; tacoma
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To: Kerberos
Militant islamotrash.
1,441 posted on 10/23/2002 7:49:37 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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To: austingirl
I sent the link to the story to Greta at On the Record at Fox. haha Seems to be the topic right now.
1,442 posted on 10/23/2002 7:49:38 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Palladin
Fox News reports that it's called Campground Zero, a militia training camp. Sheesh! No mention of Islamics.
1,443 posted on 10/23/2002 7:49:46 PM PDT by AF68
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To: kcvl
UH OH !
1,444 posted on 10/23/2002 7:49:47 PM PDT by lawdog
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To: OXENinFLA
Fox is reporting that "Ground Zero" in Marion, AL is a training camp for militia groups. They refuse to call it a terrorist camp training for jihad!
1,445 posted on 10/23/2002 7:49:52 PM PDT by MichiganCheese
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To: OXENinFLA
FNC just picked up on "CAMP GROUND ZERO"

I guess that shows they have somebody monitoring FR.

Have there been any recent sniper-still shootings in Montgomery, AL that people at this camp might have committed?

1,446 posted on 10/23/2002 7:49:55 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: Mamzelle
Awesome CALL
1,447 posted on 10/23/2002 7:50:03 PM PDT by Katie_Colic
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To: Kerberos
Militia Group ? Homegrown ?
1,448 posted on 10/23/2002 7:50:11 PM PDT by cmsgop
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To: kcvl
Brian Wilson said it is the location of a militia group. Why would they speculate the militia angle and not the the terrorist training camp angle.
1,449 posted on 10/23/2002 7:50:25 PM PDT by Ligeia
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To: Kerberos
Says it is a militant group

Making it seems like white supremicists, even though with the links from FReepers it seems like our friends from the religion of peace.

1,450 posted on 10/23/2002 7:50:25 PM PDT by Dengar01
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To: kcvl
I knew Marion, AL rang a bell.




Preparing for Jihad in Alabama - Islamic Militant Training Camp Allegedly Operating in Alabama
ABCnews.com | 7/25/02 | Brian Ross


Posted on 07/25/2002 4:38 PM Pacific by freeperfromnj


July 25 — A training camp linked to Islamic militants has been operating in Alabama, and European law enforcement officials believe Muslim extremists were using it to prepare for a holy war.

British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws, sources told ABCNEWS. The looming question for law enforcement is whether there is a connection between the camp and the al Qaeda terror network.

An investigation by Britain's Scotland Yard led to the discovery of the camp in Marion, Ala. The facility is called "Ground Zero USA."

Bullet-riddled police cars and a school bus with mannequin targets are scattered around the property. Inside a huge shed is an equally macabre scene — shot-up mannequins, male and female, in domestic settings, some with red, blood-like stains on them.

Ground Zero's operators promised state-of-the-art, world-class training in automatic weapons, urban warfare, SWAT tactics and martial arts, supposedly to fight terror attacks.

Marion Police Chief Tony Buford said he became suspicious of the use of police cars and buses as targets.

"It was rumored that the camp here was used as training site for possible people that were sent here to do bodily harm to Americans," Buford told ABCNEWS.

Web Site Provides Terror Link

The suspected terror ties of the Alabama camp were unknown until after Sept. 11, when officials in London arrested an accused al Qaeda supporter, Zain-ul-Albidin

He is charged with operation of a Web site, under the name of Sakina Security, allegedly recruiting Muslims for an Islamic jihad or holy war. He is now on trial in London.

The site, since taken down by British authorities, described what seemed to be the Alabama camp, including live-fire exercises at a state-of-the-art shooting range in the United States — something that would not be legal in Britain.

"In the United States, it is not illegal for anyone to receive military training, high-grade military training," said Rohan Gunaratna, author of Inside Al Qaeda.

The actual owners of camp, who are also British, say it was used primarily to train law enforcement personnel. Officials consider them unwitting accomplices. The camp owners declined to talk to ABCNEWS.

Scale of Secret Camps Unknown

It is not known how many holy war recruits came through the camp or when. But the FBI is now investigating a number of suspected training camps around the country.

"We know of a number of cases where Islamic terrorists came and training in this country in the early 1990s. It is likely that this scale of training is still continuing," Gunaratna said.

The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."

British intelligence officials told ABCNEWS they are closely examining alleged ties between Hamza, who is said to have recruited alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, and Zain-ul-Albidin.


1,451 posted on 10/23/2002 7:50:28 PM PDT by sbelew
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To: aristeides
FNC going to break in on reporting of Thai restaurants near the Needle. Can see reporter looking at FR in the background saying "no, the other thread!"
1,452 posted on 10/23/2002 7:50:56 PM PDT by lelio
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To: blam
"Marion, Alabama is about 50 miles west of Montgomery, about 30 miles south of Tuscaloosa." Isn't that where the ME terrorist training base was reported (here on FR) to be?....yes it was!!!"

Marion also has a rural military academy.

1,453 posted on 10/23/2002 7:51:02 PM PDT by Southack
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To: AF68
Fox News reports that it's called Campground Zero, a militia training camp. Sheesh! No mention of Islamics.

Good grief!

1,454 posted on 10/23/2002 7:51:12 PM PDT by Lauratealeaf
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To: All
I don't remember where it was reported (maybe right here on FR), but didn't they say the guy from Washington has gone by two different names?

That may be a clue, I know that normally in the military you wouldn't be able to go by different names unless... he changed it legally to a MUSLIM name.

Only speculation, but think about it.

1,455 posted on 10/23/2002 7:51:14 PM PDT by codercpc
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To: OXENinFLA
Fox has GOT to be culling these threads. Good idea too.

Hey, Fox got that Dr. Baden-Baden guy from HBO. Hopefully his next show will be about the true cause of death of the sniper, who was beaten, poisoned, shot, stabbed, hung and set aflame by an angry mob.

1,456 posted on 10/23/2002 7:51:15 PM PDT by Dr.Deth
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To: MichiganCheese
Camp Ground Zero is linked to Terrorist Training through Abu HAzma who is linked to Semi Osman who is linked to the TAcoma area .. HMMMM
1,457 posted on 10/23/2002 7:51:27 PM PDT by commish
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To: cmsgop
"Militia Group ? Homegrown ? "

Don't know it was real quick.

1,458 posted on 10/23/2002 7:51:41 PM PDT by Kerberos
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To: aristeides
FNC needs to link it to the BRITISH investagation and how they found the camp.
1,459 posted on 10/23/2002 7:51:56 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
LOL! That wasn't 20 words or less. :)
1,460 posted on 10/23/2002 7:51:56 PM PDT by vikingchick
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