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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Wed., Oct. 23,2002
Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences | October 23, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Conferences

Posted on 10/23/2002 2:39:33 AM PDT by Peach

Let's keep a live commentary thread going again today. The FBI Tip Line #1-888-324-9800.

All seems quiet since yesterday's news the shooter may target children specifically. It was released on various news outlets the shooter's 3-page letter to police was in broken English and threatened extreme violence. Police announced an electronic transfer of $10m as requested by the shooter was not possible but other options for transfer remain open. No one seriously believes police will actually give the shooter $$, but police are trying to keep a dialogue open with the shooter in an effort to capture this monster.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: beltwaysniper; dc; dcsniper; dcsnipers; fbi; investigation; maryland; shootings; sniper; terrorism; virginia
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To: Bella
Odd difference in age, no?
3,021 posted on 10/23/2002 8:11:45 PM PDT by Katya
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To: commish
Evidently so.
3,022 posted on 10/23/2002 8:11:46 PM PDT by MasonGal
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To: mhking
He's late but Fox has the camera trained on the moose headquarters front door waiting, waiting...
3,023 posted on 10/23/2002 8:11:50 PM PDT by snippy_about_it
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To: commish
I'm back to ME terrorists again.
3,024 posted on 10/23/2002 8:11:56 PM PDT by rintense
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To: mhking
Correct. Camp was investigated this summer. Lots of shot up mannequins in domestic settings.

Marion Traing Camp

3,025 posted on 10/23/2002 8:11:59 PM PDT by JDGreen123
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To: mhking
Yes it is and lots of stuff going on and keeps changing by the minute
3,026 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:00 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: mhking
Supposedly any moment.
3,027 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:01 PM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: HairOfTheDog
Darn! My computer has not been cooperative this evening!

I'm just catching up now. If someone has posted this already, I apologize. I just want it on FR before abcnews removes it because of PC inconvienience. Thanks to the FReeper that posted the original link.

BTW- Foxnews said that this is the 'militia camp' that they have the warrant for...

Islamic Militant Training Camp Allegedly Operating in Alabama

By Brian Ross

July 25 — A training camp linked to Islamic militants has been operating in Alabama, and European law enforcement officials believe Muslim extremists were using it to prepare for a holy war.

British authorities also thought that militants from overseas were training in the United States to take advantage of America's gun laws, sources told ABCNEWS. The looming question for law enforcement is whether there is a connection between the camp and the al Qaeda terror network. An investigation by Britain's Scotland Yard led to the discovery of the camp in Marion, Ala. The facility is called "Ground Zero USA."

Bullet-riddled police cars and a school bus with mannequin targets are scattered around the property. Inside a huge shed is an equally macabre scene — shot-up mannequins, male and female, in domestic settings, some with red, blood-like stains on them.

Ground Zero's operators promised state-of-the-art, world-class training in automatic weapons, urban warfare, SWAT tactics and martial arts, supposedly to fight terror attacks.

Marion Police Chief Tony Buford said he became suspicious of the use of police cars and buses as targets.

"It was rumored that the camp here was used as training site for possible people that were sent here to do bodily harm to Americans," Buford told ABCNEWS.

Web Site Provides Terror Link

The suspected terror ties of the Alabama camp were unknown until after Sept. 11, when officials in London arrested an accused al Qaeda supporter, Zain-ul-Albidin

He is charged with operation of a Web site, under the name of Sakina Security, allegedly recruiting Muslims for an Islamic jihad or holy war. He is now on trial in London.

The site, since taken down by British authorities, described what seemed to be the Alabama camp, including live-fire exercises at a state-of-the-art shooting range in the United States — something that would not be legal in Britain.

"In the United States, it is not illegal for anyone to receive military training, high-grade military training," said Rohan Gunaratna, author of Inside Al Qaeda.

The actual owners of camp, who are also British, say it was used primarily to train law enforcement personnel. Officials consider them unwitting accomplices. The camp owners declined to talk to ABCNEWS.

Scale of Secret Camps Unknown

It is not known how many holy war recruits came through the camp or when. But the FBI is now investigating a number of suspected training camps around the country.

"We know of a number of cases where Islamic terrorists came and training in this country in the early 1990s. It is likely that this scale of training is still continuing," Gunaratna said.

The most radical and belligerent of London's Islamic clerics, Abu Hamza, told ABCNEWS in a phone call that America's laws make such paramilitary training easy, "like a picnic."

British intelligence officials told ABCNEWS they are closely examining alleged ties between Hamza, who is said to have recruited alleged "20th hijacker" Zacarias Moussaoui, and Zain-ul-Albidin.

3,028 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:14 PM PDT by abner
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To: GeorgeandtheDralgore
Camp was connected to Abu Hamza. Abu Hamza connected to James Ujaama (Seattle) and Semi Osman (Tacoma). Tacoma connects to these guys.
3,029 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:14 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
Thereis no way they can say this is homegrown..this was transplanted to our land. These people were allowed to make roots all over the US. See map posted on previous 100 posts. GRRRR

Unlike post-OKC, we today have the tools to counter this Clintonista tactic. Freepers MUST use them to avoid another Democrat slimefest. The fate of the Senate, and thus the courts, may depend on it.

3,030 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:18 PM PDT by mondonico
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To: Latina_Abogada
Ugggh!

Clearing my mind of this picture.. :-p
3,031 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:25 PM PDT by Freedom2specul8
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To: rintense

3,032 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:25 PM PDT by Rebelbase
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To: Latina_Abogada
Only Monica knows for sure.
3,033 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:30 PM PDT by rintense
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To: Tree of Liberty
Isn't one of the Buffalo-6 Al Queda cell ex-U.S. military?

I"m pretty sure that both the Buffalo cell and the Portland cell have ex-military folk in them.

3,034 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:31 PM PDT by mhking
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To: ~Kim4VRWC's~
You think this will finally put people over the edge?

Is it me, or has NOBODY on TV mentioned the terrorism connection yet? Is FR that far ahead of everybody else?

3,035 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:46 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Rebelbase
HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHA!
3,036 posted on 10/23/2002 8:12:56 PM PDT by rintense
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To: snickeroon
We'll see what happens in the press in the next few days, but in the interim, I suggest we send a few e-mails to Hannity, rest of Fox, CNN, Rush (can't believe I mentioned them in the same sentence). If the story doesn't come out within a few days - we need to take action.
3,037 posted on 10/23/2002 8:13:20 PM PDT by Peach
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To: HairOfTheDog
Well, the shots have all come from wooded areas. Hmmm. Old man willow, maybe...
3,038 posted on 10/23/2002 8:13:20 PM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: TexKat
Could he be New Black Panther??

It's doubtful; the whole "I am God" thing and the secrecy don't fit their M.O.

3,039 posted on 10/23/2002 8:13:24 PM PDT by mhking
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To: swarthyguy
LOL!
3,040 posted on 10/23/2002 8:13:36 PM PDT by Elenya
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