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myself and the obvious | 10-22-02 | my favorite headache

Posted on 10/22/2002 6:08:27 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache

Won't make this too long here just throwing out an idea here. The cops were watching this pay phone booth yesterday. 2 illegal immigrants pull up to it and we know the rest of the story. I came up with a theory today that I wanted some opinions on. I am thinking that the 2 men a Mexican and a Guataemalen were probably very common user's of this pay phone. Most illegal immigrants resort to using calling cards to call their homeland and usually early in the morning or real late at night depending on the time change of their country to the U.S..

The sniper cell is obviously traveling in different cars here. Maybe having cased a particular route everywhere there are white vans. These guys are watched for a couple of days and he sees that they use this payphone and have a truck fitting the description. Remember calling cards come up or are traced back to the number of the company that issues the card. Only then can the company trace back to what phone booth a call is made from.

So the sniper cell leaves a message from that phone number days ago after the 6th or 7th shooting. The law finally gets the number down and the message from the tips line as calls 8 and 9 come in. The cell demands money for an offshore account. The law tells them we can't do that for you today.

Is it possible that the offshore account was blackmail or extortion to an account that would funnel much needed money to other cells or an organization that found the means to use this money for funding operations? Ala Al Qaeda which trained in these very things? Electronical terrorism...and a host of other things by use of computers and banks.

I truly believe we are in the next wave here and the color chart is still sitting at code 3. Truly showing how useless it is. Al Qaeda and its supporting groups have had its money stripped from them for the most part and choked off. Is this the new means of getting money? They most certainly trained for this. They most certainly made these threats on our childred over the last year. They have most certainly trained for Urban Terrorism.

We have seen the CNN videos captured from Afghanistan. We have been warned of these types of attacks and methods. Yet, our government is trying its best to distance itself from terrorism. They will not show a picture of the missing French soldier who specialized in sniping so to say.

A French terrorist you say? Well who is sitting and playing our government in VIRGINIA like a fiddle? Moussaoi...the 20th hi-jacker.

Still don't think it is terrorism or Al Qaeda related? Prove me wrong...or add to this thread. Explain to me why the accent and the spelling of these notes is screaming of coming from a foreigner not familiar with the English language.

Prove me wrong or give me a reason why it is not Al Qaeda or terrorism FreeRepublic.com.

Why do I feel as if this country is protecting a certain group of people in this country right now because if the truth came out...the government would lose control of the population and the rest of the population would take matters into their own hands.

God how could we ever do that? Actually fight the war on terror on the home front.

Just do what they tell ya.


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To: knak
Somehow I don't find it at all surprising that Moose is in bed with the Muslims. That explains his reluctance to release info that pointed toward a particular minority group.
61 posted on 10/22/2002 7:39:03 PM PDT by per loin
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To: My Favorite Headache
You do raise some very good points.
62 posted on 10/22/2002 7:39:30 PM PDT by pistola
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To: My Favorite Headache
I have a theory too (which in the end is likely to provoke yet another theory. More on that later.)

500 years ago, the folks gathered around the marketplace of rural Romania would attribute random killings in the village to some vampire. 200 years ago, random killings in Bavaria would be attributed by the village folk to a wolfman (I'm being loose with my history now. Indulge me for a minute, will ya?!) 30 years ago Godfather, the movie was immensely popular here, and such killings might have been attributed to the Italian mafia.

Today? Well, there is no evidence whatsoever available to us the public to link this sniper to anything, to any group, or to any particular movement! There is however a history, a tradition, if you will, in this country (unlike in most or all other countries) of random killings. Feature movies have been made on this subject and similar sniper attacks have been occurring for the past 30-40 years. Postal workers, gun nuts, frustrados, transients, all red blooded Americans! Islamic terrorists this time? Maybe, but the occurrence of 9/11 alone doesn't make it so. It only infects our minds with crazy theories! I figure if Ted Kaczynski's rampage were occurring today, the poor abused religion of peace would be blamed on these pages.

As far as that other theory that I expect this theory to provoke? Why, it'll state unequivocally that this cat must be the sniper him/herself using diversionary tactics.

63 posted on 10/22/2002 7:41:27 PM PDT by Revolting cat!
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To: My Favorite Headache
I tend to agree with you, we have the tapes from Afghanistan demonstrating AQ training for this type of assault.

Did you see Moose today talking about how our very freedom as Americans and our way of life was under attack? That doesn't sound to me like he thinks it's a homegrown nutcase.

I just wish there was something constructive that I could do...watching this on TV is extremely frustrating and that message today regarding our children is absolutely infuriating. I pray that Moose and his crew get this guy SOON.

64 posted on 10/22/2002 7:41:44 PM PDT by pgkdan
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To: DAnconia55
Our French sniper is probably Muslim, an immigrant to France, perhaps... and is loose here. He'd be able to move in western society easier than a middle eastern born arab with no exposure to the West.

Couple of problems here.

The French did not say he was a sniper, only a good shot. The sniper tag was added here on FR.

The guy is only a 2LT so he hasn't been in the service too long. Doubt he has advanced training in much of anything.

The Military school he was enrolled in only takes those born in France. He might still be Muslim, France and Spain are full of them, but he must be native born.

65 posted on 10/22/2002 7:43:04 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: My Favorite Headache
I posted the LA Times article about the broken English in the sniper letter found at the Ponderosa. I also believe there is a strong possibility this is an international terrorist. I had not thought about the French muslim Moussaoui, Reid and Johnny Jihad all being held and tried in Virginia.

IF this is foreign terrorism and the taskforce has knowledge of it they are in BIG trouble when it gets out. They better not keep us in the dark like they did with the threat against children today. They only fessed up when the media kept putting the pressure on, otherwise they wouldn't have said anything.

I also posted that it may be possible that they are posing as police or media at the scene and leave after the roads are cleared. Otherwise there is a mosque nearby.
66 posted on 10/22/2002 7:43:26 PM PDT by WestCoastGal
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To: kjam22
I believe you are right.
67 posted on 10/22/2002 7:43:52 PM PDT by bonfire
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To: per loin
Yes my eyes raised when I read that link as well. Explains a few things for sure....again...we are protecting them before we protect us.
68 posted on 10/22/2002 7:43:54 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Dog Gone
DG, check out this one!
69 posted on 10/22/2002 7:44:16 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: WestCoastGal
The only thing is that don't the bullet fragments point to the same gun being used? But then the shooter doesn't seem to have the same precision each time either.
70 posted on 10/22/2002 7:44:54 PM PDT by FITZ
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To: WestCoastGal
Agreed 100%
71 posted on 10/22/2002 7:46:59 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: My Favorite Headache
Why do I feel as if this country is protecting a certain group of people in this country right now because if the truth came out...the government would lose control of the population and the rest of the population would take matters into their own hands.

Please explain this part to me. The Republicans would love to be able to say that this was AQ and backed by Iraq. Elections would go their way and DemoRATS who opposed the President would look like fools.

What do you think Americans would do? Cities have been burned, buildings collapsed, riots in the streets and people are more interested in what's on at the movies.

Lose control of the population ....... yea right!

73 posted on 10/22/2002 7:58:27 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: WestCoastGal
Does anyone know yet if they ever released the victims name from the steakhouse? If not why? Privacy, I guess?
74 posted on 10/22/2002 7:59:53 PM PDT by knak
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To: ping jockey
I do not disagree with what you say but not in this case.

That school only takes NATIVE born and most enlisted Legionnaires are "supposed" to be foreign born. Plus his age was right to be a normal 2nd Lt at that school.

75 posted on 10/22/2002 8:02:54 PM PDT by HoustonCurmudgeon
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To: My Favorite Headache
The cops were watching this pay phone booth yesterday. 2 illegal immigrants pull up to it and we know the rest of the story. I came up with a theory today that I wanted some opinions on.

I think your theory is bunk. It's the number the undocumented workers called that triggered their capture. [It's the number the shooter(s) provided to LE on Saturday.] They were duped or manipulated to make that call.

The shooters were doing an experiment, and the cops showed their @$$ on that one.

76 posted on 10/22/2002 8:03:59 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: My Favorite Headache; per loin
I waas thinking more along the lines of a sympathetic ear. The portland terrorists arrested know of moose's relationship to the muslim community. One of them is still at large. Maybe the sniper, demands for the others release?

Besides Battle and Lewis, the others charged were Habis Abdulla al Saoub, 36, who is at large;

Just speculating!

77 posted on 10/22/2002 8:09:01 PM PDT by knak
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To: HoustonCurmudgeon
What I meant was the threat of Muslims being picked off by gun owning private citizens. Not all out anarchy but people taking matters into their own hands. That is what I speak of. You know damn well there are a huge portion of Americans calling this "Oh probably some right wing whacko who is doing this to get back at the government." Sound familiar? Like those Anthrax attacks? "Oh it has to be some white right wing nut job out there doing this", yeah...the Republican party wants to be the ones to turn loose this info right now and then something happen and it blows up in their faces.

Maybe after elections?

79 posted on 10/22/2002 8:14:40 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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To: Fred Mertz
Can you show me evidence they called that number?
80 posted on 10/22/2002 8:15:53 PM PDT by My Favorite Headache
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