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Beltway Sniper Shootings-FR Commentary-Tuesday, Oct. 22, 2002 [Another Shooting?]
Fox News, CNN, Press Releases | October 22, 2002 | Fox News, CNN, Press Releases

Posted on 10/22/2002 2:09:43 AM PDT by Peach

Let's keep a live commentary thread gonig again today.


TOPICS: Crime/Corruption; Culture/Society; Extended News; News/Current Events; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: banglist; dc; maryland; shooter; sniper; virginia
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To: mystery-ak
If the National Guard is called out....what exactly are they supposed to do?....Escort children into school, pump gas, escort people in and out of stores?...will they be armed?....to me they will be more targets. Good point!
2,081 posted on 10/22/2002 3:33:20 PM PDT by yukong
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To: berkeleybeej
I noticed how hunched Moose was. I think he takes his part in this, however small, very gravely, and I could see powerlessness and fatigue in his eyes and posture.

We have to remember that he is being used here as a figurehead, and he has to parse his words so carefully, knowing one wrong word might end someone else's life. I would NOT want that responsibility.

2,082 posted on 10/22/2002 3:34:08 PM PDT by Yaelle
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To: berkeleybeej
like he is literally carrying the weight of the world on his shoulders.

I am sure the weight is heavy, and this may sound harsh...but in life and death situations, you need a leader. STRONG and CONFIDENT, SKILLED and IN CHARGE.

No disrespect to this man..but...when choosing the General to lead the army, you do not chose someone who shows the weight of the world on his shoulders. I know that sounds harsh..but..THINK.

2,083 posted on 10/22/2002 3:34:51 PM PDT by Neenah
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To: mystery-ak
They (the National Guard) can act as observers. They can be equipped with cameras. One or more may die in an attack, yes, but the rest will be able to get a better description of the perp(s).
2,084 posted on 10/22/2002 3:34:51 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: aristeides
I agree, the little prick only goes after unarmed innocent defenseless people
2,085 posted on 10/22/2002 3:36:47 PM PDT by MTCJK
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To: Dog
Well with all due respect, I do not view the comment as baiting nor was it intended that way. Facts are that the policy issues which result in our vunerability inside the domestic borders result from political policies for which George II is responsible--the policies need to be changed; we need better leadership; the current sniper crisis is only one in a probable continuing series of events for which we see no national response.

Instead, the national government has developed a response that focuses on controlling law abiding domestic citizens--people who ride on airplanes; private pilots; gun owners and the like. The FBI and other government agencies focus their initial investigative energy on "white supremicists" and other domestic sources. "Homeland security" and Tom Ridge are just a PR exercise designed to make people feel better. We are not doing anything about the substance of the problem nor do we show any signs of being prepared to do so.

We aren't responding to this sniper and a lot of innocent Americans, black and white, probably including kids, are likely to be killed.

So yes, I think the real pressure ought to be on the national administration to get organized to do something effective about this attack. I'm real sorry you don't agree.

2,086 posted on 10/22/2002 3:37:19 PM PDT by David
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To: poppyseed
Yes. You can even leave the "TO" blank
2,087 posted on 10/22/2002 3:37:44 PM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: aristeides
Armed with cameras....I see....more cannon fodder.
2,088 posted on 10/22/2002 3:38:02 PM PDT by mystery-ak
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To: AmericanInTokyo
Hey, i signed up for FR one day before you ----nah nah nah lol
2,089 posted on 10/22/2002 3:38:13 PM PDT by MTCJK
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To: mpoulin
The DC reporter who said "the genie is out of the bottle" did not mean to imply nuclear weapons, I'm reasonably sure. Of course, when talking nukes, reasonably sure isn't good enough. The press would not sit on a story that involved nukes. They'd be at the least telling their families who would be telling their friends, etc.
2,090 posted on 10/22/2002 3:38:26 PM PDT by Peach
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To: Neenah
I'm not in charge of choosing this general. The people in his area are.
2,091 posted on 10/22/2002 3:38:29 PM PDT by berkeleybeej
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To: swarthyguy
OK Freepers, I know this is going to sound a bit like Yoda from Star Wars, but here is a quick Alta Vista translation of French press right now running this story. It is the English of what I just posted earlier. I think it is SO important for Americans back in the US to know the great dimension this issue will have overseas and how international attention, including that of the giggling, evil Terrorists, will be absolutely RIVETTED to the DC area. President Bush should consider a pep talk ASAP! This has gone international:

"The gunner of Washington kills again and threatens the children to increase the photograph ROCKVILLE, Maryland (Reuters) - the gunner has striken at the source of the true psychosis in the United States informed the police force that the children of the area of Washington were not in safety "nowhere, at any time". Charles Moose, head of the police force of the county of Montgomery, declared at the time of a press conference which the police force had received a phone call of the killer, suspected of having assassinated 10 people and to have wounded three of them since October 2. The police force launched a vast hunting to the man in the area of Washington, where a bus driver was killed by ball Tuesday morning - an act which resembles the nine assassinations extremely and three attempts allotted in twenty days to the gunner embusqué at the origin of a true psychosis. The new victim was touched whereas it was held upright beside its bus with the stop, around 6 hours of the morning (10h00 GMT), on Connecticut Avenue, in Aspen Hills, in the county of Montgomery (Maryland). It is in this same county that the gunner in series had initially appeared, and organizes it of Montgomery, in charge of the investigation, deployed impressive means to put the hand on the author of these acts. The principal roads were blocked while the investigators controlled the vehicles, in particular those led by men. Agents, helicopters and units of dogs of the police force took share with hunting for the man, relayed by all the media of the country. But the gunner seemed to have taken once more the broad one. All the elements seem to prove that it is about a new victim of the "sniper" which haunts the surroundings of the American capital: only one ball would have been drawn, and the place is near a wooded zone where it is possible to hide. ECONOMIC ACTIVITY IN RETREAT Although the police force awaits usually the results of the ballistic examinations to officially establish the link with the gunner in series, it recognized that it inquired as if this bond existed. The authorities thus deployed means with the measurement of the panic sown by the gunner in series, which touched each one of its victims of only one ball, drawn by a powerful rifle with long range. The last episode of this fact various which holds in breath the United States is likely to feed the psychosis still more. The schoolboys of the area of Washington, which includes/understands the States of Maryland and Virginia, were constrained to remain in class at the time of the recreations, and the principal sporting events in the open air had to be cancelled. Who more is, the economic activity of the area was deeply reached, of many people preferring not to expose itself in the street. The majority of the victims of the gunner were touched in commercial zones or service station. The last shooting allotted to the killer in series had wounded Saturday evening a man with Ashland, in Virginia, to approximately 130 km in the south of the federal capital. Since, the head of the police force of the county of Mongtomery, Charles Moose, in load of the investigation, tried to come into contact with the gunner embusqué by interposed media. According to Washington Post, the investigators found a letter handwritten on the spot of the incident of Saturday. With believing of it the American daily newspaper, which quotes Tuesday of the sources close to the police force, the police officers started a dialogue with a man which is, according to them, the gunner. This last had left a first message close to a school of the county of Prince George, in Maryland, where a pupil had been seriously wounded on his arrival with the establishment. It acted according to media's of a chart of tarot representing the death on which it was registered: "Dear police officer, I am God." "

2,092 posted on 10/22/2002 3:38:59 PM PDT by AmericanInTokyo
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To: yukong
I don't feel what I felt when a day or two after the 9/11 horror, when President Bush took the floor of the House Chambers and said, we won't rest, and neither will you. We are coming after you, and you will pay.

I'd like to hear those words NOW with a small change:

President Bush took the floor of the House Chambers and said, we won't rest, and neither will you. We are coming after you, and you will pay AND WE'RE GOING TO START IN THE US!

2,093 posted on 10/22/2002 3:39:08 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: TexKat
Did you see the news conference, evidently not. You are incorrect.

Yes, I was basing my comments on my observation of the news conference.

He was specifically asked about his use of the word "people" and set the reporter straight that he had been using the phrase "person or people" for several days (which he has--which I have also heard with my own ears).

2,094 posted on 10/22/2002 3:39:17 PM PDT by cyncooper
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To: yukong
I understand what you've meant and agree with most of it. Let me tell you, these cops working on this sniper case are the best this Country has. ALL the agencies are there, to the best of my knowledge. Now, if they are hunting for a "sniper" type and don't know enough to look in the trees, and the killer has to call them on their tip line, to tell them where to look for a THREE page note, then we are ALL IN BIG trouble. IMHO.
2,095 posted on 10/22/2002 3:39:43 PM PDT by Letitring
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To: AmericanInTokyo
"oh yes, the force is stong in you young skywalker"
2,096 posted on 10/22/2002 3:40:37 PM PDT by yukong
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To: Letitring
WTOP says, "News briefing within the next 15 minutes"
2,097 posted on 10/22/2002 3:40:49 PM PDT by bcoffey
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To: Dog
" If this should happen......the sniper will move to another area.....PA...DE...NJ... my 2 cents."

Absolutely correct. They may do that anyway.

2,098 posted on 10/22/2002 3:40:50 PM PDT by David
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To: aristeides
As I said in a reply above, I suspect the threat was made public because it had already become common knowledge in VA and the secret could therefore not be kept in the rest of the country.

I agree completely. But let me add something that may cause us to disagree. I believe the pressure was not mostly from the press. I believe it was from the Lawyers...

I realize that there are more lawyers in this area than anywhere on earth. I'm getting to be able to smell lawyers like a blood hound smells blood (or Whatever). Just look at Moose's words starting with the preamble to this section...

Secondly, there continues to be...

I also think they should release most of the information they have (keeping whatever "Tells" they need and whatever items they think others could easily copy.

The authorities have demonstrated they can't even come close to catching this guy. It's like the Unabomer... two months after releasing the manifesto, we caught him and we didn't even have FreeRepublic back then.

I think we could do it in two days on FR.

2,099 posted on 10/22/2002 3:41:49 PM PDT by OReilly
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To: bcoffey
WMAL says same: conference in 15 minutes.
2,100 posted on 10/22/2002 3:42:11 PM PDT by aristeides
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