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Kodak Employee Fired For Calling "Coming Out Day" "Offensive and Disgusting"
News Source 13 ^ | October 21, 2002 | Mike Doria

Posted on 10/21/2002 11:48:03 AM PDT by rochester

Rochester, NY - A Greece man, who was fired a few days ago from Eastman Kodak, said giving his opinion in an e-mail lead to his termination. Kodak's diversity group sent out an e-mail asking employees to "be supportive" of colleagues who choose to come out on Gay and Lesbian Coming-Out Day. Rolf Szabo replied to the memo telling the company not to send him this type of information and that he found it "disgusting and offensive."

"I said it and I meant it. I'm not going to take it back," Szabo said.

Although Szabo does not condone the gay lifestyle, he said this isn't a gay issue. Rather, he said, it's an issue of Kodak crossing the line via e-mail.

"I don't need this to do my job. It has nothing to do with gay. It could've been any other topic. It's just that enough is enough. We really don't need this to do our jobs," he said.

Szabo said Kodak wanted him to sign a letter admitting he was wrong. He said after he refused, he was fired. A Kodak spokesperson said Kodak won't comment about personnel issues, but did say that any issues related to the treatment of employees are universal.

Szabo, who had been with Kodak for 23 years working with metals, said he'll get legal advice whether his rights were violated.

Labor and Employment attorney Matt Fusco said that he thinks Szabo has very few options and no chance of winning a lawsuit because employers cannot discriminate.

"If an employer goes a step further and promote diversity--you have no right to oppose that policy," Fusco said.

"The Eastman Kodak Company gives me a paycheck; they don't own me. I'll go somewhere else for a paycheck, that's all," Szabo said.

Whether or not he ends up filing a lawsuit, Szabo said he will pursue the issue claiming Kodak is wrong for catering to a select group versus a larger Kodak community.


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KEYWORDS: homosexualagenda; kodak
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To: rochester
. A Kodak spokesperson said Kodak won't comment about personnel issues, They will in court. They will before Congress.

Kodak is so clearly over the line on this, they are going to eat crow, and the backstairs-climbing, sneak-politicking, insider-game-playing gays that strung this guy up because he wouldn't sign on the dotted line are going to be the ones who lose their jobs.

At Enron, they had similar gay-friendly policies, and nobody knew why. Then the Houston Chronicle outed Michael Kopper, who was the No. 3 or No. 4 executive in the firm, as an insider "power gay".

This is what liberals do inside corporations. Their own anaerobic politics thrives in the anaerobic environment of an executive organization, where nothing is quite true and nothing is firm and fast, and the rules change all the time, where personnel is policy.

The Chronicle outed Kopper during the unraveling of the scandal because outing him was relevant to certain arrangements that Kopper had with the company concerning his boyfriend.

141 posted on 10/22/2002 8:30:14 AM PDT by lentulusgracchus
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To: rochester
If an employer goes a step further and promote diversity--you have no right to oppose that policy," Fusco said.

How hypocritical of them. This is how you ARE to believe, if not, you're fired! We can't even put up Christmas displays at work and yet were supposed to support disgusting and sick sexual behavior at work of all places?
Fascist Kodak has seen my last dime.

142 posted on 10/22/2002 8:42:12 AM PDT by PLOM...NOT!
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To: SeeRushToldU_So
That is a miniscule number of people--1,200 vs. Kodak's 60,000 plus! I still say it was Kodak's management that made the bad decision re diversity. Why make it tougher for the employees to keep their jobs? You all will if you buy Fuji! And Fuji remains a Japanese company and their profits go to Japan, not to America.
143 posted on 10/23/2002 3:39:13 PM PDT by Paulus Invictus
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To: chaosagent
I just received an answer to my email to Kodak.



Dear Mr. ChaosAgent:

As a matter of policy, we don't comment on individual personnel matters, but we can assure you that Kodak carefully and thoroughly reviews all personnel matters.

Kodak is committed to building and maintaining a diverse workforce and an inclusive work environment. Our diversity is one of the reasons we're the leading imaging company in the world. The diversity of our workforce - the scope and depth of the talent, ideas and experiences we bring to bear - combine to make Kodak products and services the best in the industry.

We thank you for your e-mail, and we will pass your comments along to Kodak management.

Eastman Kodak Company




Original message follows:



Question: I recently read Kodak has fired an employee who
protested Kodak's email endorsement of "Gay and
Lesbian Coming Out Day" from your Diversity Group.

I'm now waiting for Kodak's endorsement
supporting 2nd Amendment Rights, the Right to
Life, and President Bush's War on Terror. How's
that for Diversity?

Until then, it's now either Fuji Film, or my
great new Sony Digital Camera.

144 posted on 10/24/2002 2:22:20 PM PDT by chaosagent
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To: rochester
Dear Mr. Principled:

As a matter of policy, we don't comment on individual personnel matters, but we can assure you that Kodak carefully and thoroughly reviews all personnel matters.

Kodak is committed to building and maintaining a diverse workforce and an inclusive work environment. Our diversity is one of the reasons we're the leading imaging company in the world. The diversity of our workforce - the scope and depth of the talent, ideas and experiences we bring to bear - combine to make Kodak products and services the best in the industry.

We thank you for your e-mail, and we will pass your comments along to Kodak management. Eastman Kodak Company

145 posted on 10/24/2002 3:14:20 PM PDT by Principled
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I got the exact robotic response as well. Decency won't allow me to post what I fired back at them. Let's say I wasn't impressed with their considering themselves such a great place if they chose depravity over decency.
146 posted on 10/24/2002 11:46:49 PM PDT by JoJo Gunn
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To: txzman
Well simple - for me. Kodak corporately espouses a way of life that is anethema to me, as a Christian. Furthermore they ram it down an employee's throat and allow no expression to 'opt out' or dissent, based on personal conviction.

Excellent! I could not have said this better. To support a company whose ideals you vehemently object to just because they are an American company is not consistent with my beliefs either.

147 posted on 10/26/2002 4:19:01 PM PDT by CalConservative
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To: DouglasKC
How is announcing national coming out day in an email substanstially different from telling everyone in an email how much you like banging women?

Easy! In the first case you are telling everyone how much you like banging men. Big difference! One's perfectly acceptable in public (including schools, places of employment, etc.) and the other is not.

148 posted on 10/26/2002 4:42:39 PM PDT by CalConservative
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To: rochester
Here is my email to Kodak, for your information:

Concerning your treatment of Mr. Rolf Szabo and your corporate "diversity" policy, I find it extremely puzzling why companies such as Kodak, that espouse tolerance and diversity, are often among the most intolerant when someone has an opinion that does not match the coporate view of what one should think or say.

I have never been in a Kodak office, but I would be willing to bet that Kodak's tolerance does not extend to someone displaying an emblem of Christian faith at their desk. Yet, the ability of a small group to flaunt their sexual perversions is readily embraced. The word hypocrisy comes readily to mind. Only certain forms of tolerance are acceptable apparently.

Based on this relevation of your policies, my company will be adopting a policy of not purchasing any Kodak products or services, including ophoto.com. We will also make sure to try to influence as many people as possible to cease their use of Kodak products and services. While your coporate officers have indicated in their press releases that a product boycott is of no concern to them, I feel it is just as important to me and my company that we only support companies that are truly tolerant - not those that try to advance a radical social agenda under the false guise of tolerance and diversity.

149 posted on 10/26/2002 4:44:29 PM PDT by CalConservative
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To: rochester
Three words come to mind:

Wrongful Termination Lawsuit

150 posted on 10/26/2002 7:10:41 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: txzman; jigsaw; Taxman; TC Rider; Gritty; dd5339; eno_; Vidalia; SeeRushToldU_So; WaveThatFlag; ...
E-Mail Questions or Comments to Kodak
151 posted on 10/26/2002 7:18:15 PM PDT by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
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To: Lightnin
Japanese film all the way! Besides, Japan isn't as
hung up on this PC diversity bull&%$# like the USS of
A seems to be-Only in Amerika.
152 posted on 10/26/2002 8:56:57 PM PDT by jragan2001
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To: jragan2001
No more Kodak moments for Freepers!
153 posted on 10/26/2002 9:43:54 PM PDT by xp38
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To: NotJustAnotherPrettyFace
Here's the direct e-mail address I copied from their (retch) "response".


OtherUS@cyber.kodak.com

154 posted on 10/27/2002 1:17:22 AM PDT by JoJo Gunn
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To: TrappedInLiberalHell
I will remember this story and Kodak next time I buy film. And I buy quite a bit.....
155 posted on 10/27/2002 1:25:21 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: JoJo Gunn
BUMP.........
156 posted on 10/27/2002 1:34:10 AM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Joe Hadenuf
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157 posted on 10/27/2002 1:57:26 PM PST by JoJo Gunn
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To: rochester
Camera store here in Burlington, North Carolina told me last week that film sales there are down 15% due to widespread digicam use now.

Kodak's future is getting dim - even aside from self-inflicted wounds inviting boycotts.

158 posted on 10/27/2002 2:08:49 PM PST by glc1173@aol.com
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To: JoJo Gunn; rochester; chaosagent; TrappedInLiberalHell; HamiltonJay; MortMan; AlexW; N. Theknow; ...
Hey all, I received a "response" from Kodak. Here's the email verbatim:

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Dear Mr. XXXXX,

As a matter of policy, we don't comment on individual personnel matters,
but we can assure you that Kodak carefully and thoroughly reviews all personnel matters.

Kodak is committed to building and maintaining a diverse workforce and
an inclusive work environment. Our diversity is one of the reasons we're the leading imaging company in the world. The diversity of our workforce - the scope and depth of the talent, ideas and experiences we bring to bear - combine to make Kodak products and services the best in the industry.

We thank you for your e-mail, and we will pass your comments along to Kodak management.

Eastman Kodak Company

-----------------------------------------

I'm still waiting for them to have a "Celebrate Jesus" or "Bring your Gun to the Office" day to ensure that all things are truly diverse....

Until that time, Fuji or AGFA will be getting my money.

159 posted on 10/28/2002 1:55:24 PM PST by Johnny Gage
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To: SkyPilot
Her Picture:

MAY E. SNOWDEN
Chief Diversity Officer
Eastman Kodak Company

160 posted on 10/28/2002 3:08:44 PM PST by machman
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