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Blatantly bigoted editorial.
1 posted on 10/20/2002 7:46:13 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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Blatantly bigoted editorial.
2 posted on 10/20/2002 7:46:42 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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"Child support workers in the building have been afraid of something like this,"

So they KNOW how much they're hated?

It was upsetting to staff members. ... These are just people trying to do their job."

So were the guards at Treblinka.

"We're certainly aware that some people don't like what we do,"

I can't imagine THAT! People don't like being robbed??!!

"People shouldn't have to be afraid to come to work,"

On the contrary, they SHOULD, if their "job" involves stealing money from people in the name of the State.

4 posted on 10/20/2002 8:01:25 AM PDT by IronJack
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"These are just people trying to do their job"

Jones and Heimmler were a good meticulous clerks.

7 posted on 10/20/2002 8:23:30 AM PDT by cornelis
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Office workers didn't take any chances Thursday morning when they saw Magby's distinctive car on fire. The second and third floors where the enforcement division has offices were evacuated.

Any bets on whether they advised anyone else to evacuate the building?...

8 posted on 10/20/2002 8:30:25 AM PDT by null and void
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Tataboline Brant's article about Jed Magby's protest over child support was blatantly bigoted. Federal funding for child support enforcement is provided in proportion to the amount of child support paid. Child support formulae have replaced rational law in deciding child support amounts. Due process is dead. The formulae produce arbitrarily high child support awards. No reasonable and informed person could agree that amounts ordered as "child support" today are generally "valid." Every form of protest has been tried and millions of appeals have been filed to no avail. By refusing to acknowledge the corruption in the child support system and the legitimate complaints of fathers in the press, writers like Tataboline Brant cut off access to the remaining established institution for peacefully addressing grievances. Men in Alaska and throughout the rest of the United States feel that they have no choice but to consider other forms of protest. I sincerely believe that most child support enforcement workers know that what they are involved in is wrong, yet they continue to do it. If nothing else, it's their job. State Department of Revenue deputy commissioner Larry Persily knows that maintaining public support requires blaming the victims. I certainly hope that Anchorage Daily News will publish many letters to the editor and counterpoint op-eds to bring some balance to blatantly bigoted coverage of the event.

225 words max, letters to the editor
10 posted on 10/20/2002 8:32:39 AM PDT by RogerFGay
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Every time I see an article like this, I am glad I dont have any children. I have come to consider children as the conduit of government intrusion into the life of an individual.

Kids are wonderful things, but I feel very fortunate not to have any.

11 posted on 10/20/2002 8:36:29 AM PDT by BuddhaBoy
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ahh more fallout from the "great society" initiative of the 60's. It went from trying to help women without husbands to outright discouraging women from having husbands. Fathers went from a family pillar to a family burden.

Well done democrats.
12 posted on 10/20/2002 8:37:59 AM PDT by longtermmemmory
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The men's right crowd here on FR steadfastly refuses to acknowledge the single biggest flaw in its approach. The inner workings of the family have traditionally been seen as outside the domain of the state. It is divorce more than anything else which invites the state to interfere in areas in which it has no business, and in which it more likely to do harm than good. Revising child custody laws will do absolutely nothing to correct the situation. In fact, I think such policies may have the effect of further devaluing the importance of motherhood to society.

You men want an easy way out. Work on your marriages more, and you won't have to deal with these problems in the first place.

17 posted on 10/20/2002 8:58:05 AM PDT by independentmind
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Eh...Am I the only one to think it strange that a man who OWES $50,000 in child support would choose to set his OWN MERCEDES on fire?

Hmmmm...
This man is indefensible.
34 posted on 10/20/2002 9:28:11 AM PDT by Happygal
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"Hold muh beer 'n watch this!" PING....

If you want on or off this list, please let me know!
This has come about after much badgering by you, my friends and extended family...

59 posted on 10/20/2002 10:16:26 AM PDT by mhking
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A lot of the hardship from child support orders stem from the fact that divorced men often immediately shack up with a new and younger broad who wants children of her own. So suddenly he's supporting two litters of children.
85 posted on 10/20/2002 10:43:35 AM PDT by ambrose
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I'm gonna engage my favorite FR hobby and make a bet on when the first post shows up giving a "Hell Yeah!" to this loon, because wimmin iz the debbil and child support is a liberal tool to destroy the idea of the father. I give it 7 posts. Mind you, I haven't read the thread yet, so...
91 posted on 10/20/2002 10:47:55 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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OK, I've read 12 posts so far and it seems like everyone of them is anti child support. One "genius" even mannaged to drop Himmler's name. Sad.

Serves those bitches right for getting pregnant. Let them support the kids themselves. Right?
95 posted on 10/20/2002 10:50:32 AM PDT by Conservative til I die
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Department of Revenue???

With a name like that, you figure they'll get the money anyway they can.

156 posted on 10/20/2002 11:30:14 AM PDT by Tall_Texan
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Sounds like the 'dead beat Dad' wants somebody dead!
200 posted on 10/20/2002 12:07:41 PM PDT by rockfish59
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Just goes to show the screwin' you get ain't worth the screwin' you get!
201 posted on 10/20/2002 12:08:32 PM PDT by advocate10
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I'll mention another thing about this situation that should stick out like a sore thumb until Larry Persily, state Department of Revenue deputy commissioner, is fired and jailed. He immediately responded to the press by opening up Jed Magby's file and releasing personal information in order to demonize the guy. I'm actually afraid to hear what all the pretend "conservatives" have to say about the fact that the computer system they use contains personal information about all of them, and that it's not confidential. A lot of these goofballs will say that it's ok.
206 posted on 10/20/2002 12:16:47 PM PDT by RogerFGay
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This opens up a whole new field for the gov't to pursue, now that it has established from the top down that Islam is a religion of peace (those Saudi Muslims must have made a wrong turn by flying planes into the WTC.)  Now, besides the FBI identifying in their own literature those who quote the Bible and founding fathers as the real terrorists, and stopping everyone in a white van, they can go after screwed-over fathers with flaming vehicles bereaved unfairly of their kids and too much of their money.  Those certainly must be the real terrorists.  I must say that seeing the massive control of the gov't in child areas, I am surprised that the guy can afford a car at all, much less a Mercedes.  But that must be the way the Mercedes benz.
244 posted on 10/20/2002 3:04:00 PM PDT by 2sheep
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To: RogerFGay
Blatantly bigoted editorial.

Thats right those great men who own expensive cars and huge saleries who decide to leave their children for the state to raise and having them turnout to be criminals who I have to shoot when they rob my house. Nothing in this story makes that crazy bastard a good person. However I do have to remember that some morons on this bbs thought it was ok for you to shoot a cop over a traffic ticket.
273 posted on 10/20/2002 5:30:30 PM PDT by Brush_Your_Teeth
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