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Hanover County Shooting [Ashland, Virginia- North of Richmond]

Posted on 10/19/2002 6:14:56 PM PDT by William McKinley

Just reported. Took place outside of a Ponderosa Steakhouse. Not sure if it is related or not at this time. Police have shut down parts of I-95.


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To: El Gato
Where does the Constitution grant Constitutional rights?

Throughout.

No, it protects rights, not grants them. Find an example where it says something like "The people shall have the right...". No it says the "right of the people" "shall not be infringed", or similar wording, which just assumes that right exists and some level of government may not violate it.

No, it attempts, or claims to protect unalienable rights and it does so through out.

Let's start with Article I Section I -- "All legislative Powers herein granted shall be vested in a Congress of the United States, which shall consist of a Senate and House of Representatives".

2,361 posted on 10/19/2002 11:04:19 PM PDT by FreeReign
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To: ApesForEvolution
What will Ted's assertions and $1 get us?

A good laugh and a cheese burger at Carls Jr...(for a limited time only)

The time constraint applies to only the burger......Ted is always gonna be good for a laugh.

2,362 posted on 10/19/2002 11:04:27 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: Diddle E. Squat
Watch this guy on FOX.......
2,363 posted on 10/19/2002 11:04:31 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: Jimer
Cute.
2,364 posted on 10/19/2002 11:04:33 PM PDT by College Repub
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To: College Repub
Apologies for the double-post. I'm not going liberal. I'm a fan of Fedor. I have no problem with conservative Christians. I have a problem with people like home educate who believe that nobody but conservative Christians belong in this country.

You are inferring way too much from what he/she said. Do you not agree that the moral condition of this country is on the skids? That is not to say that no one but conservative Christians belong here. It is to say that we would benefit from a greater influence of conservative Christians.

Please: Conservative Christians and Jews pretty much live and die (politically) together. What's with your hypersensitivity tonight? (Not typical of you.)

2,365 posted on 10/19/2002 11:04:41 PM PDT by BenR2
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To: Jimer
LOL....that's good!
2,366 posted on 10/19/2002 11:05:01 PM PDT by realwoman
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To: Howlin
I've yet to see a list of these supposed rights we've lost

Well, judging from the footage I just saw on MSNBC, it does not look as if the jackboots are even asking for consent to search the white vehicles. They are pulling over all white vans with automatic weapons raised and pointed AT THE DRIVER and detaining are them as they search the vehicle. RIP America.

2,367 posted on 10/19/2002 11:05:04 PM PDT by southern rock
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To: ExSoldier
BTW if you think I should seek other employment I would urge you to swap jobs with me for a few weeks and see which one of us gets arrested for assault or gooes to the hospital because they got their butts kicked first. LOL

You indeed have a tough job. Sounds like you have a little war zone right there at your school. I don't no why troublemakers are allowed to remain in school. They are only hurting the students who actually want to learn something.

2,368 posted on 10/19/2002 11:05:07 PM PDT by SwordofTruth
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To: realwoman
LOL

That's not belittling him. That's recognizing that his particular religion has a "restriction" on the soiling of the word "God". The observant Jew always writes the word out as "G_d", or some such, to avoid soiling the name of he who is.

;-)

2,369 posted on 10/19/2002 11:05:16 PM PDT by Thumper1960
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To: The Ghost of Richard Nixon
I happen to agree with the spirit of your proposal -- but you're kiiding yourself if you don't think this violates the Constitution. Do you envision armed citizen-soldiers breaking into mosques looking for terrorists?

I don't actually believe we should kill all the Muslims. At least.. not the ones here. They have rights.

But I Don't see how a murderous cult, harboring our enemies who are actively attacking us (snipers, WTC, more to come..) qualify for protection under the law....

What next, let them import 250,000 armed men - and as long as they're in a Mosque, they're off limits? I don't think so...

2,370 posted on 10/19/2002 11:05:27 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: ApesForEvolution
Not far fetched. Been thinking that if I was going to do this sort of thing I would want to be seperated from the weapon as soon as possible. If there are two or more involved, stashing the gun might be an option. The cartridge case and card indicate that the shooter does not have leaving no trace as a top priority, or he is very clever and leaves bogus clues. Say you are using a Contender and you leave a case from an AR-15 just to be devious.
2,371 posted on 10/19/2002 11:05:46 PM PDT by M1911A1
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To: hole_n_one
Or a Jack-In-The-Box 99 cent Texas Cheeseburger.
2,372 posted on 10/19/2002 11:05:59 PM PDT by Diddle E. Squat
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To: El Gato
Army planes for now, Air Force will be called in shortly for better vehicle tracking.
2,373 posted on 10/19/2002 11:06:18 PM PDT by spycatcher
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To: ApesForEvolution
Apparently, he's our very own god in this forum.

Well, you can be sure she has nothing to do with issuing your rights. I have that on good authority.

2,374 posted on 10/19/2002 11:06:22 PM PDT by DAnconia55
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To: Thumper1960
I know that......that was directed at another post....forgive me......
2,375 posted on 10/19/2002 11:06:35 PM PDT by realwoman
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To: hole_n_one
This guy on FOX is unbelievable........
2,376 posted on 10/19/2002 11:06:52 PM PDT by Joe Hadenuf
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To: txflake
"That, or at least STFU if they aren't contributing to the topic of this thread - Who's Killin' Off our Northeasterners - take the extraneous shit to another thread, pleaasse...."

Yes, pleaasse

2,377 posted on 10/19/2002 11:06:52 PM PDT by lonevoice
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To: BenR2
I'm not being hypersensitive. It wasn't that one comment, it was a whole slew of comments he made tonight that led to what I said. And I'm sure he (or she?) is a fine person. But what I meant by my comment was that it was the perception that many moderate democrats and independents have that all republicans are like him (or her) that leads them to NOT vote Republican. That's all...
2,378 posted on 10/19/2002 11:07:05 PM PDT by College Repub
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To: M1911A1
A scoped Contender with a 14 inch barrel would be perfect. I had one some time back. It was good to about 200 yards. The Israelis would be using mirrors to search under the cars. I haven't seen our police doing that.
2,379 posted on 10/19/2002 11:07:15 PM PDT by claudiustg
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To: GirlShortstop
Oy Vey!

Zig Wallop!

2,380 posted on 10/19/2002 11:07:24 PM PDT by FreeReign
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