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Hanover County Shooting [Ashland, Virginia- North of Richmond]

Posted on 10/19/2002 6:14:56 PM PDT by William McKinley

Just reported. Took place outside of a Ponderosa Steakhouse. Not sure if it is related or not at this time. Police have shut down parts of I-95.


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To: Kevin Curry
Well, as for obvious and NOT SO OBVIOUS (apparently to many) actions in the midst of a war, it would seem logical...
1,441 posted on 10/19/2002 9:03:24 PM PDT by ApesForEvolution
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To: Lessismore
What happened to our eyes in the sky?
1,442 posted on 10/19/2002 9:03:25 PM PDT by virgil
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To: ApesForEvolution
Which right of YOURS EXACTLY has been suspended?
1,443 posted on 10/19/2002 9:03:29 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: tubebender
A last flash of him looked ME

Yup looked like he was ME to me too

1,444 posted on 10/19/2002 9:03:38 PM PDT by OXENinFLA
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To: ApesForEvolution
Regarding your remark about profiling the enemy, I would ask you how you would profile the following KNOWN TERRORISTS:

John Walker Lindh
Richard Reid
Jose Padilla
The black Portland cell group
Native born American citizens of Yemeni descent in the Buffalo cell

As you should be able to see, profiling is not a protection.

1,445 posted on 10/19/2002 9:03:41 PM PDT by Miss Marple
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To: Senator Pardek
LOVED that movie, and loved the band even more!
1,446 posted on 10/19/2002 9:03:56 PM PDT by rintense
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To: jonsie
That or something like that.

I suspect you are correct.

This shooter finds a hole; cases the hole; and then camps in the hole.

Shooter comes out of the hole, takes a snapshot and retreats to hole.

Travels later.

In this case, the shooter is using axes other than the north-south corridor(s).

My guess would be that the shooter is traveling along the circle routes, as often used by the Confederates during the Civil War.

Travels north-south on axis to the west; gets to that axis on the old Virginia pikes.

Always a different axis.

Probably has been using route maps published for evasion tactics schools, such as used by various upper-muckety-mucks.

Those maps show every navigable path through which a car can travel to escape and evade kidnappers.

Corporate types regularly attend such training programs around the "greater D.C. area."

1,447 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:04 PM PDT by First_Salute
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To: brigette
"I don't think they are traveling... I think they stick around the area to watch all the action and to learn from it. I think these roadblocks are a BIG waste of time."

I agree, if they have a box truck or van what if they ddrive down some rural road 20 miles and park. They then pull out camo netting cover the van, boot up a laptop with satelite povider, and watch the shat unfold on the internet Total cost for equipment $30,000 including van and gun. $2,000 if they rent van and are paying for comp via credit line.

1,448 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:04 PM PDT by JHrules
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To: All
I hope we realize that every terrorist in the world is watching us turn our country inside out. That's all this is. One gunman has caused the entire northeast to shutdown. For roads to be closed for miles and miles. What a joke. The authorities just step right into the trap.

Here's an idea. Why not coordinate one of these shootings with something bigger. That way, while roads are backed up for dozens of miles, emergency vehicles can't get to the scene of (fill in the blank).

1,449 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:07 PM PDT by paul544
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To: All
I wonder if our spy plane got him? You would think THAT area would have been on the list.
1,450 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:07 PM PDT by md2576
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To: mostlyundecided
See #1246
1,451 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:10 PM PDT by hole_n_one
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To: relee
I thought I heard the Ashland Police Chief say the plan ( to close the roads) was put into effect a few minutes after the shooting.

Yes, he did say that. My point is that the sniper took his shot and was probably making fast tracks before the 911 call was even made. In the time it took to make the 911 call and the police to respond, the sniper was miles away.

1,452 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:16 PM PDT by McLynnan
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To: John H K
"You mean the van that no one (so far) saw anyone shoot out of, and is driving along speeding a bit?"

If knowone has seen the van, why is everyone looking for it? Try reading the comments in context.
1,453 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:22 PM PDT by Clean_Sweep
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To: Miss Marple
BUMP to what YOU said....about profiling!
1,454 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:23 PM PDT by goodnesswins
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To: ExSoldier
"Thank God you said that! Somebody needs to be saying the same damn thing everywhere in the country!

Yup--see post #1422

1,455 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:33 PM PDT by aeronca
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To: rintense
MSNBC is reporting the guy that was shot should be fine .. the bullet did not hit any major arteries
1,456 posted on 10/19/2002 9:04:41 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: Letitring
Don't get me started with Captain Moose. He seems to have adopted and perfected Hitlery's Sargent Shultz routine....he knows NOTHING. Please. :0)

1,458 posted on 10/19/2002 9:05:05 PM PDT by Kathleen
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To: OXENinFLA
Arm Everyone!!!!

What next?

Shoot Everyone!!!???

Lots of us are armed, but has anybody really seen the perp long enough to draw a bead?

Yeah, they won't hire people to be cops who have IQ's over 120, and a lot of the crap they are doing is STOOOpid, but I don't think running around and shooting Sikhs (who DO wear turbins) is going to help.

1,460 posted on 10/19/2002 9:05:30 PM PDT by patriciaruth
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