HEAD UP: Special Alert from SierraTimes

Sierra Times ^ | 10-18-02 | staff

[backhoe]

 

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THU 10.17.02 18:15 Sierra Time

We believe we have several issues developing around the county - all *possibly*
involving the sniper mess. There have been three unexplained shootings in the Long
Island, New York Area, and two in near Columbus, Ohio.

Have there been any unexplained shootings in your news coverage area?
(please supply URL's to the story if there are any)

You can write to us at news@sierratimes.com

Also: HEADS UP MARYLAND (and NO. VA)- We have received information from several sources in the Maryland area that
certain gun owners are being contacted by persons
claiming to be from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms asking (read: demanding) to "borrow" firearms for
ballistic fingerprinting as part of the DC sniper investigation. Those that do not comply are threatened with a visit
from the folks sporting the basic black dress code.

At least 5000 weapons have been 'voluntarily' surrendered in Maryland and Northern Virginia to
date.

We suspect those that comply will be engaging in a voluntary firearm confiscation program in the Maryland/DC area. If
you have received this call, please consult legal counsel *immediately*, and send a notice to this the following e-mail
address:

editor@sierratimes.com

We also suggest the following:
(from Gary Marbut)

Authentication of and response to phone inquiries from alleged BATF or FBI agents in re firearm possession:

1.  Ask for name, agency identification number (every agency uses something, badge number, etc), and telephone number.
If they won't give them, tell the caller to have his supervisor call and hang up.

2.   Once you get the identity data, tell the caller you will verify their identity with the 911 operator.  Then call
911 (all calls are recorded) and report the incident asking them to verify that the caller is not a hoaxer or to notify
the appropriate agency if it is a hoax.

2.   If the caller's bona fides are verified by the 911 operator, you can decide whether or not to contact an attorney.
If you do, he or she (not you, the client) will most likely call the agent back and say you'll be happy to respond to a
valid subpoena or warrant but not to participate in
this fishing expedition.   On the other hand, if you decide to let them see/test your firearm, make certain your
attorney negotiates the circumstances of it's prompt return FIRST.  Have the agency (through a higher up)  promise to
return it immediately after the test, agree to repair or compensate you for any damage, and to pay your attorney fees
and costs if you have to demand  or sue for it's return.

3.   Cooperation without an attorney representing you is simply too dangerous in view of both agencies recent record of
false testimony, false evidence, false affidavits to courts, etc.  They simply cannot be trusted.

Thank you,
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[wardaddy]

Please let us no when you post to Sit-Rep.

There is no antidote to your scenario. The govt. only sees confiscation at the end of the tunnel.

This witness description mess in MD has me rather confused. They are claiming that the "witness" who climed he saw the driver and the AK-74 gun was lying. What about the other half dozen witnesses who saw a white van with olive skins.....were they all lying too?

Something stinks here.

[TigersEye]

Great work, backhoe!!! EVERYONE should read those links. NOW!!! Particularly the last link and pay attention to the poster who was contacted by the FBI. The authorities in Maryland obviously have NOTHING on the 'DC Sniper'. They are fishing in the dark and taking out as many gun owners as possible at the same time.

[Thinkin' Gal]

Please see this thread.

[Hank Kerchief]

Amazing how many of these folks were sitting on their roofs with rifles, after 911, and looking for hijacked airliners.

Thanks! I wondered what those were. I thought it was some kind of bird hunt.

Hank

[Hank Kerchief]

Hope "Hank Kerchief" realizes the door will be deadbolted and well guarded.

Hank Kerchief does not shoot his mouth off to the whole world so they know what his preparations are.

Yo lip gonna sink yo ship.

[BiffSchneider]

"Reporting someone who is (possibly) impersonating a police officer or faderal agent surely is an emergency."

No it isn't. An emergency involves a direct, immediate threat to life or property.

Call the local PD's non-emergency line.

[Travis McGee]

"Never believe anything in politics until it has been officially denied."

~~~Otto Von Bismark

[OXENinFLA]

BUMP BUMP

[backhoe]

I appreciate your words of support.

[Minutemen]

Of course they were not questioned. Those nice muslim men were only expressing their First Amendments Rights.

[Redcloak]

I keep checking talk.politics.guns on USENET, and I can't find a thing on it.

[sit-rep]

Don't spend a dime other than your domain name. Once you establish your domain name, le'me know and I'll set you up with a folder under SR. It'll be cheaper than anything else you'll find. I'll help you with layout and design if you need.

The Marine corp's toys for tots is under the SR domain, and a few others that remain under raps...

SR

[2sheep]

Create-A-Crisis and Clamp Down:

"Today [1991] America would be outraged if U.N. troops entered Los Angeles to restore order; tomorrow they will be grateful! This is especially true if they were told that there were an outside threat from beyond, whether real or promulgated, that threatened our very existence. When presented with this scenario, individual rights will be willingly relinquished for the guarantee of their well-being granted to them by the World Government."  ...Dr. Henry Kissinger, Bilderberger Conference, Evian-Les-Bains, France 1991

[knak]

drive by shooting in Shaftsbury, Vermont

A mother and her child are SAFE at this hour, after an unknown gunman allegedly shot at them this morning on the North Road in Shaftsbury.

The woman was leaving her driveway when a shot struck her vehicle. A 16 guage shotgun was used with birdshotto blow out the window. The woman and her child were not injured. Police are looking for a white Subaru Forester -- or Outback -- with Vermont plates last seen on North Road prior to the shooting.

more at link

[Alouette]

at a local Mall on Wedensday a Woman's Clothing store had five Arab men come in state loudly that "This is a Jewish Store." and ask the slaes women "Are you Jewish women or are you just paid by the Jews?"

Security and the local PD were called. No arrests were made.

Let's see, if I went into a store in Dearborn, Michigan, and loudly proclaimed THIS IS A MUSLIM STORE! and asked all the sales staff ARE YOU MUSLIMS OR ARE YOU JUST PAID BY MUSLIMS do you think I would get 25-40 years or mandatory life without parole (Michigan does not have the death penalty).

[backhoe]

Thanks for the link & info!

[TigersEye]

That would be a "Hate Crime" (wretch, gag, puke) and you know darn well what you would get. A high tech lynching.

[sweetliberty]

Have you seen this?

[agitator]

I still haven't seen anything that would lead me to believe that 5000 guns have been surrendered to anybody. I have seen comments from people who have been contacted by Fedz, that's believable.

[sport]

TWA Flight 800 come to mind?