Socialist Students "illegally" helping Wellstone

drudge ^ | 10/16/02

[pollwatcher]

"Send A Student To Minnesota! DSA’s national electoral project this year is the Minnesota Senate Election. Together with YDS, DSA’s Youth Section, we are mobilizing to bring young people to Minnesota. Minnesota is one of the few states that allow same day voter registration. We will therefore focus our energy on registering young Minnesotans. Wellstone will need a high percentage of young people to register and vote for him if he is to stave off the campaign that Bush, the Republicans and the Greens are waging against him. He is the Right’s Number One electoral target.

Because we are focusing on issue-based voter registration, this electoral work can be supported by tax-deductible contributions. The DSA FUND is soliciting tax-deductible contributions to support this project...."

[xm177e2]

It also doesn't say in the first memo they were bringing people to MN to REGISTER voters, they were being brought up to VOTE.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

This was the original post (mine) from the day before (note the date of my post - linked above).

To: PJ-Comix

Not only that but the Democratic Socialists of America have plans to ship in people to register the ..... dead!

Here's the text from the pop-up that happens when one logs onto their site (I'll save you the trouble and spare them the "hit"! ;-):

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Send A Student To Minnesota!

DSA’s national electoral project this year is the Minnesota Senate Election. Together with YDS, DSA’s Youth Section, we are mobilizing to bring young people to Minnesota. Minnesota is one of the few states that allow same day voter registration. We will therefore focus our energy on registering young people. Wellstone will need a high percentage of young people to register and vote for him if he is to stave off the campaign that Bush, the Republicans and the Greens are waging against him. He is the Right’s Number One electoral target.

Because we are focusing on issue-based voter registration, this electoral work can be supported by tax-deductible contributions. The DSA FUND is soliciting tax-deductible contributions to support this project. Contributions are needed to underwrite the costs of transportation as well as providing a stipend for expenses; housing is being donated. You can contribute online with a Master Card or VISA. To contribute, simply choose from one of the amounts listed below. Click on the red dot and you will be taken to a secure server to input your credit card information. Our online order system does not allow us to let you fill in an amount, so if the choices we offer are less than what you want to contribute simply make more than one transaction until you reach the total you want to contribute.

$125
$200
$50
$75
$500

To contribute offline:
Make your check payable to DSA FUND, indicate Minnesota Project on the check or in your letter and return it to DSA FUND, 180 Varick St., 12th fl., NY, NY 10014

22 posted on 10/12/02 2:46 AM Central by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace

[Hunble]

I also printed out the original text, since I expected them alter it once people realized what was happening.

They altered the text and are using young Minnesotans in an effort to appear legal.

Unfortunatly, that still does not get them off the hook, since the original intent was to import people from other States and turn them into instant Minnesota citizens for the purpose of voting.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

I.e. My post was two days earlier than the one you quoted above in Post #38. Just to clarify things :-).

[stndngathwrthistry]

My last post on this subject, since I am now merely repeating myself.

I've read the DSA page several times. My point is that what that page is talking about is bringing people to Minnesota to conduct a late voter registration drive. Nothing on the page justifies the conclusion that the people being broght to Minnesota are going to vote themselves. I know everyone's het up over this, but it just isn't there.

And if they did intend to bring people to Minnesota to vote illegally, I don't think they'd publish a web page about it, much less suggest that donations are tax-deductible. Even Socialists aren't that stupid.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Also found on another related thread:

To: Mensch

Most people don't realize how easy it is to commit voter fraud in Minnesota. Not only is same-day registration possible, the only identification you need is for another registered voter to "vouch" that you are a legal voter at the polling place.

A Democrat organization like the one above could shuttle the same voters around, allowing them to vote several times at several different polling places. All they'd need is a single previously registered voter at each polling station to do the "vouching."

There have been rumors in the past that welfare advocacy groups have pulled this very trick in Saint Paul in previous elections.

28 posted on 10/16/02 8:13 AM Central by Snuffington

[TheGrimReaper]

Their sh!t isn't going to stop.
We simply have to recognize what the media will never admit, and the NJ and FL Supreme Courts are willing to abet:
The democrat party is little more than organized crime, just with a new "front" operation.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Stupid? No. Sly, devious? Yes.

[Hunble]

Send A Student To Minnesota!

Ok, if you say so......

[timestax]

Even Socialists aren't that stupid. 45 posted on 10/16/02 4:40 PM Pacific by stndngathwrthistry [

ha ha, want to bet. Also, always a first time!!

[terilyn]

Nice job! This was all over the local talk radio today. The Secretary of State and the US Attorney for Minnesota are aware of this and are watching closely. (Thanks to some very active Minnesota FReepers)!

Note though, until there is actual fraud committed they cannot act. The US Attorney told the radio host to check back in November after the election and he'd be happy to take the call.

I want to know what would stop these "young people" from voting absentee in Iowa or Wisconsin or South Dakota and then coming into MN and voting again.

One person can vouch for as many new unregistered voters as they wish. No limits. One person could vouch for 500 people if they wanted to. The poll worker is not allowed to question them if they sign the card stating that they are vouching for the persons residency.

This is nuts!

[terilyn]

Thank you for saving that and re-posting it. FReepers are the best!

[stndngathwrthistry]

OK, this will be my last post on this subject. Really! I mean it!

It also doesn't say in the first memo they were bringing people to MN to REGISTER voters, they were being brought up to VOTE.

But it doesn't say that.

I assume this is what you're referring to: "Together with YDS, DSA’s Youth Section, we are mobilizing to bring young people to Minnesota. Minnesota is one of the few states that allow same day voter registration. We will therefore focus our energy on registering young people. Wellstone will need a high percentage of young people to register and vote for him...."

You are assuming that the young people being brought up to Minnesota are the same young people being registered. But that is an assumption. Indeed, given your theory that they are bringing in outside voters, I don't even understand what the word "percentage" would mean.

And why would they write this: "Because we are focusing on issue-based voter registration, this electoral work can be supported by tax-deductible contributions."

Clearly these people aren't too worried about a possible FEC or IRS investigation of this "issue-based voter registration," even with a Republican in the White House.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

You could say I've been a little "busy" over the last few days following up on this little "story" :-). (See my posts above for the sequence of events.)

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Flag for the info that this story is now discussed on Drudge.

[NotJustAnotherPrettyFace]

Please elaborate on the nature of the MN-area talk show discussions! What's the general sense of how people are reacting up there?

PS: You're welcome. As I mentioned to Gore_Sux, I'm a big believer in shining the "light" on the cockroach "activists" who play dirty pool.

[terilyn]

Local station AM1500 KSTP had this on their morning show, they had just gotten wind of it and didn't have a lot of details.

Then Rush was all over it and finally, during the early afternoon drive time, Joe Soucheray spent nearly his entire show on it.

Had the MN Sec of State, Mary Kiffmeyer, on and she said that her office had been flooded with calls and emails, (Thank you MN FReepers), and that they were very aware of the problem. But, since no fraud had yet been committed they couldn't DO anything but watch closely.

Then the MN US Attorney Tom Heffelfinger called in. He said that his office had been made aware of it by both the Sec of State's office and by calls, emails. He said that he couldn't comment on an ongoing investigation, nor could he verify that there was an investigation, but that they would be monitoring the situation and invited Joe to call him back in November after the election and said he would be "Happy to take his call" then.

Then a MN State Rep called in, (sorry - didn't catch her name), and said that there was a bill before the state legislature last year that would have limited the vouching for new voters program to ten per voucher, but it was shot down and never even got to a vote. Also a bill to require picture ID for people registering the first time on election day and that also never made it to a vote. She encouraged people to call their Reps. and demand that they do something about this.

Joe also was hilarious, making fun of the DSA and thier communist leanings, (had a 150 year candle ceremony for the communist party's birthday), called GWB more dangerous to the world than Saddam Hussein...he let them have it. The hilarious part where he lost it was the fact that these socialists would actually have evil capitalist credit cards with which to donate to this project!

He then publicly called on Wellstone to denounce this and declare that he doesn't support any of their beliefs including the GWB/Saddam analogy, and to let these "Young people" know that if they did follow through they would be committing fraud, a felony. Said he had a responsibility to denounce this and let them know what it was they were being encouraged to do. He also acknowledged that it would probably be a cold day you know where before Wellstone actually stepped up and did this.

I'm sure the evening show, (Jason Lewis - Minnesota's Mr. Right), is all over this right now. I get horrible reception in my house however, so if anybody else is listening I'd love to hear what he had to say on this.

[PJ-Comix]

someone who is registered in the precinct where you live to vouch for you at the polling place

FRAUD ALERT! FRAUD ALERT!

[PJ-Comix]

I had a feeling that your reply to my post would make waves. GOOD FIND!!! BTW, I bet the "Young People" they ship in to Minnesota will be the same type of crew that rioted in Seattle. The funds asked for in the requested donations is to pay for their "fun" trip and semi-vacation to Minnesota so that they can commit voter fraud on election day. BTW, any word on whether this story has been picked up on the Minnesota media?

[PJ-Comix]

WOW! I'm feeling pretty good right now. I didn't have anything directly to do with catching the flagrant attempt at voting fraud but because the info was in a reply by NotJustAnotherPrettyFace to my thread post I feel like I was sort of the indirect catalyst for exposing this scandal.