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To: Kenton
If the Police knew it was a 5.45 x 39MM round and not an actual .223 this could explain the story.

IT doesn't explain the ATF showing a bunch of AR-15's and HK .223's about a week ago saying "These could be the types of gun the sniper is using."

A .223 is not a 5.45 x 39MM

31 posted on 10/15/2002 4:39:57 PM PDT by FF578
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To: FF578
There is a saying in detective work to the effect of:

If you hear hoof beats, suspect horses.

It could well be that the police called the projectile a .223 because that's what they were familiar with and they were dealing only with fragments, not an intact bullet. And besides, everybody knew it was a demented white military veteran. Where would he get an Ak-74?

34 posted on 10/15/2002 4:45:18 PM PDT by Mr. Lucky
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To: FF578
" IT doesn't explain the ATF showing a bunch of AR-15's and HK .223's about a week ago saying "These could be the types of gun the sniper is using"

It explains it perfectly. They are gun grabbers and they're going to milk this for all it's worth.

35 posted on 10/15/2002 4:47:56 PM PDT by spunkets
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To: FF578
IT doesn't explain the ATF showing a bunch of AR-15's and HK .223's about a week ago saying "These could be the types of gun the sniper is using."

Call it 'a flush' by the authorities by which this nervy sniper would pushed to provide proof positive of the caliber/weapon he was using " 'cause the BATF boys were just too thick to get it the first time "...

47 posted on 10/15/2002 5:00:31 PM PDT by _Jim
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To: FF578
If the Police knew it was a 5.45 x 39MM round and not an actual .223 this could explain the story.

Are 5.45 x 39MM rounds available in this country?

Does this mean the perps were trained abroad, like in Afghanistan?

139 posted on 10/15/2002 7:20:44 PM PDT by aristeides
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To: FF578
If the Police knew it was a 5.45 x 39MM round and not an actual .223 this could explain the story.

Good point. I don't know of any oher gun that shoots this cartridge, certainly none on the American market. The police have been kind of tight-lipped lately, so who knows? It sounds like all they are recovering is bullet fragments, I know a .223 FMJ will often fragment into 3 pieces on impact, I'm not sure about the 5.45 x 39MM .

IT doesn't explain the ATF showing a bunch of AR-15's and HK .223's about a week ago saying "These could be the types of gun the sniper is using."

Well, you know how the ATF likes to demonize military-styled semiautomatics. However, I also saw a bolt action varmint rifle on that table. And this guy DOESN'T seem to be spitting out brass when he shoots, especially not in the last shooting, because it sounds like he was seen and didn't have time to look around for spent casings.

184 posted on 10/16/2002 7:36:27 AM PDT by Kenton
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