[Sungirl]

Well..as I stated...I'd only wait for the 2 years for babies. But I do believe that farmers are pumping their livestock and fowl with hormones to make them grow faster. Cows are bigger alot sooner than they used to be..also chickens. I think that they know it will make more money for them and do not care about any side effects it may cause people. Also, I personally don't drink milk just because it's too many calories...not because of any hormones.

But...do you think that post #35 ..that PleaseNoMore and her Doctor are also under leftist propoganda? DO you think that all those other posts where people are only drinking organic milk are all misled?

[gratefulwharffratt]

Cows are bigger alot sooner than they used to be.

Source?? Not PETA, either.

Why do holsteins need to be bigger anyway?? So they will eat more, and cost more to raise??

[calenel]

But...do you think that post #35 ..that PleaseNoMore and her Doctor are also under leftist propoganda?? DO you think that all those other posts where people are only drinking organic milk are all misled?

Maybe. Depends on what "organic" means. Unpasteurized? Unless some other method of sterilization was used, that is far more dangerous than you might imagine. Unhomogenized? Whole? Not standard whole milk, where some of the cream has been taken out, but real whole milk in all its glory? Mmmmm. Or does it mean that they never fed the cows genetically modified feed, hormones, steroids or other cows (a topic not for the faintest of hearts) and that the cows got to wander around and didn't have a curfew?

Or is it just labeled organic so they can mark it up 500%? (Most of the so-called organic food industry is unregulated and is, in fact, a scam).

[calenel]

Cows are bigger alot sooner than they used to be..also chickens.

Which can also be attributed to improvements in nutrition, just like for people.