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Conyers Says Gun Makers 'Marketing Sniper Rifles to Criminals'
CNSNews ^ | 10/15/02 | Jeff Johnson

Posted on 10/15/2002 6:34:35 AM PDT by Tumbleweed_Connection

ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee has accused some gun manufacturers of marketing so-called "sniper rifles" in a manner that "appears to intentionally appeal to law breakers."

"The D.C. Metropolitan area has been hit by a tragic flurry of gun violence," Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) said at a Capitol Hill news conference Thursday. "Nine innocent people have been killed or injured by a serial killer who is using the technology of sniper rifles." Another fatal shooting Friday morning initially appeared linked to the other Beltway Sniper incidents.

Gary Mehalik with the National Shooting Sports Foundation called Conyers' comments "a crass and opportunistic attempt to capitalize on the sufferings and deaths," of the victims and their families.

"The firearms industry regrets having to be involved in any way with this shameful media stunt," he said. "The industry is shocked and offended by those who have jumped to a conclusion about the kind of firearms which may have been used in the commission of a crime, as a total distraction from the urgent need to find the criminal and stop these attacks."

Authorities investigating the murders have, in fact, not identified the weapon being used by the shooter other than to say that it is chambered for .223-caliber ammunition. Firearms capable of chambering that cartridge include single-shot, bolt-action, semi-automatic, and fully automatic rifles and at least one handgun.

A number of similar firearms in other calibers are also capable of firing the same size bullet from different size cartridges.

Typical uses of the .223 include target shooting as a hobby or in competition and hunting small game. The fully automatic or "machine gun" versions are used almost exclusively by military and law enforcement personnel for combat situations. Law enforcement and military snipers most commonly use bolt-action or semi-automatic rifles in the much larger .308 or .30-06 calibers.

U.S. civilians are only allowed to possess fully automatic weapons in any caliber with a special $200 "stamp" or license from the Bureau of Alcohol, Tobacco and Firearms. The stamp is only available to individuals who have completed an extensive criminal and mental health background investigation.

Between the time Conyers' staff issued a press advisory about the congressman's news conference and the time Conyers actually appeared he had changed some of the language in his allegations.

"I am here today to solicit the FTC's [Federal Trade Commission] help in bringing an end to a practice that has become far too common in our communities, the mass marketing of military style rifles to civilians," he said.

The initial media advisory accused gun makers of "marketing sniper rifles to criminals."

Tom Diaz, a senior policy analyst with the Violence Policy Center (VPC), an anti-Second Amendment group, joined Conyers in calling for a ban on the civilian ownership of many firearms.

Diaz indirectly accused firearms manufacturers of contributing to the shootings in the Washington, D.C. area.

"It is clear, the gun industry stands ready to arm and train anyone with the fantasy of being a real life sniper," he claimed. "Tragically, the nation is now witnessing the horror of that potential realized."

Mehalik took particular exception to that allegation.

"Accurate rifles capable of reliably hitting their targets have been made and sold for hundreds of years, and are used by millions of Americans in the pursuit of hunting and other recreational enjoyment of the shooting sports," he explained. "It is to those millions we market our safe and lawfully sold products."

Erich Pratt, communications director for Gun Owners of America, was not surprised by the attempt to link the legal ownership of certain firearms and the manufacturers of those firearms to criminal activity.

"Once again Conyers and the rest of the 'gun haters' crowd are trying to demonize gun owners by suggesting that these guns are basically good for nothing than being used by criminals," he said, "which is flat-out wrong."

Not only is the ownership and possession of the weapons criticized by Conyers and VPC protected by the U.S. Constitution, according to Pratt, such weapons are "frequently" used for self-defense.

"Probably the best known example of this occurred during the Los Angeles riots when shop owners were photographed and filmed using these types of semi-automatic long-guns to protect their stores," he recalled. "It was their stores that were left standing while stores next to them were burned down [by rioters]."

The contention that gun manufacturers are intentionally marketing their products to criminals is "just crazy" Pratt said.

"One, that would place them in danger of being put out of business," he explained, "But, two, we know statistically that only a fraction of one percent of the guns in this country are used in crimes. From a marketing standpoint, it would be idiotic to market your product to the smallest of the smallest minority."

The FBI, in 2000, reported 340,145 offenses committed by individuals who displayed, pointed, or discharged a firearm during the commission of the crime, including 8,043 murders. By contrast, the National Institute of Justice found in 1997 that Americans displayed, pointed, or discharged a firearm in self-defense against a criminal as many as 1.5 million times a year.

Derick Rill, a spokesman for the FTC, told CNSNews.com that the agency does have jurisdiction over the advertising of firearms, as it does over almost all other consumer products and services.

Information available on the FTC website summarizes the agency's jurisdiction and explains that the laws it enforces require that:

Advertising must be truthful and non-deceptive;

Advertisers must have the evidence to back up their claims; and

Advertisements cannot be unfair.

Conyers did not accuse the firearms industry of violating any of those provisions.

Rill said that, as of Thursday night, the FTC had not received an official request from Conyers to conduct the investigation, although Rill was "aware" of the press conference.

"The Federal Trade Commission takes all requests from the Hill seriously and gives them due consideration," he added.


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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Advertising must be truthful and non-deceptive.

Oh, if only the same were true of political speech. Conyers' is an absolutely classic case of deception, deliberate misrepresentation, and not-so-subtle misdirection of the uninitiated. This little gem, for example:

"Nine innocent people have been killed or injured by a serial killer who is using the technology of sniper rifles."

Not "using sniper rifles," or "using the rifles I'm talking about," but "using the technology of sniper rifles." This can mean anything, which is precisely why a weasel like Conyers couched it in those terms. It's a classic bait-and-switch operation - Conyers (and Waxman of California) are using a maniac with a .223 that may not even be a rifle to garner support for prohibition of .50 BMG monsters that, of all weapons, are certainly NOT the ones being used to kill people in D.C. This is such a blatant lie that even the media are skeptical - not that it prevents them from repeating it.

21 posted on 10/15/2002 9:38:06 AM PDT by Billthedrill
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Conyers Says Gun Makers 'Marketing Sniper Rifles to Criminals'

Maceman Says Conyers Marketing Tripe to Elitist Social Engineers and Idiots. (Film at 11)

22 posted on 10/15/2002 9:43:30 AM PDT by Maceman
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Here are the facts on national database ballastics

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/769511/posts?page=15

23 posted on 10/15/2002 9:48:53 AM PDT by CHICAGOFARMER
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To: Noumenon
American Civil War II, coming soon to a neighborhood near you. Refuse registration. Resist confiscation. Remember the lessons of the twentieth century, and act accordingly.

Amen and ditto! I see it in the future as well. It's the only way it will be stopped.

24 posted on 10/15/2002 9:58:57 AM PDT by YoungKentuckyConservative
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
U.S. civilians are only allowed to possess fully automatic weapons in any caliber with a special $200 "stamp" or license

Amazing how automatically they demagogue this loony shooter into a machinegun wielding sniper.

25 posted on 10/15/2002 10:02:22 AM PDT by RightWhale
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
ranking Democrat on the House Judiciary Committee has accused some gun manufacturers of marketing so-called "sniper rifles" in a manner that "appears to intentionally appeal to law breakers."

Oh, SURE, I remeber those ads now...
they had the cute blondes fawning over the burly Marlboro Man figure (complete with cowboy hat), as he stand over the bodies of schoolchildren that he recently bagged...
patriotic music crescendoes as he lifts up the weapon and looks through the scope at the camera lens...
NRA reps are throwing bundles of money at him...
GWB is shown shaking his hand and giving him a commemorative plaque...
derisive and superior/mocking laughter emanents from the background...

Now what was that tagline they used? Ah, yes, there were different ones for different markets:
"Killing... it's not just for New York muggers anymore!"
"Man... the other white meat."
"If they never see you, you'll never get caught."
and the most popular, "Got Liberals?"

Watch "Bambi-killers" and "Starve Your Grandparents to Increase Your Personal Wealth" on Sunday mornings, and I'm sure you'll see them, too.

26 posted on 10/15/2002 10:16:39 AM PDT by Teacher317
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To: Noumenon
That's a 10-4 Roger on that one...
27 posted on 10/15/2002 10:44:59 AM PDT by Traffic_Can
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To: Eric in the Ozarks
Exactly right! Just ask the family of Mary Jo Kopeckne or the father of the children that Susan Smith killed by running her car into a lake. These people should have sued the respective auto makers for selling these "deadly weapons" to criminals. I think we should ban all auto ads - they target criminals!!!!! </ sarcasm>
28 posted on 10/15/2002 10:56:37 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
The Democrats are buying "sniper rifles"?
29 posted on 10/15/2002 10:59:21 AM PDT by <1/1,000,000th%
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To: AngryJawa
If the jackass was any type of real man, he would be demanding that his own people in the city of Detroit be the first to cease and desist from shooting children and other innocents off front lawns and front porches in the city. Drive by shootings are a feature of life in the City of Detroit. Of course, Mayor Kwame Kilpatrick (Coolman Young the second) is too busy to address those crimes since he's busy directing Jenny Grunthole's gubernatorial campaign in the city. Oh, did I play the race card....darn.
30 posted on 10/15/2002 11:04:46 AM PDT by RushLake
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To: AngryJawa
"braying jackass Conyers"

Good description. It's not what I first had in mind, but then the moderator would have had to remove mine anyway.

Carolyn

31 posted on 10/15/2002 11:12:00 AM PDT by CDHart
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To: Joe Brower
Where is your proof, Mr. Conyers? Or do you just sling accusations around to appeal to the emotionally challenged?
32 posted on 10/15/2002 11:14:43 AM PDT by MoGalahad
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To: RushLake
"...since he's busy directing Jenny Grunthole's gubernatorial campaign in the city."

Please, please tell me you made up this name!

33 posted on 10/15/2002 11:16:50 AM PDT by AngryJawa
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To: toddst
well is diaz accusing ford motor company of directly contributing to the 10 car pile up on I-20 last week....surely Ford knew someone was going to drive in an unsafe manner and hurt someone....they should ban all fords!!!!!!
34 posted on 10/15/2002 11:23:21 AM PDT by cajun-jack
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Mr. Conyers obviously is suffering from dementia let us show him some compassion. I must be a suspect I own a Weatherby Accumark in the much demonized .308 with one of those high tech aiming devices (Leupold 3.5-10). Of course millions of Americans will be bearing the same since it is hunting season so this will give Moose-butt some more suspects to arrest.
35 posted on 10/15/2002 11:29:03 AM PDT by junta
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Between the time Conyers' staff issued a press advisory about the congressman's news conference and the time Conyers actually appeared he had changed some of the language in his allegations.

"I am here today to solicit the FTC's [Federal Trade Commission] help in bringing an end to a practice that has become far too common in our communities, the mass marketing of military style rifles to civilians," he said.

John Conyers - DemonRAT - member of the Congressional Progressive Caucus - need we know anything more - these traitors just want to disarm all of us so they can have all the power!!!! Bastards - all of them!!!!!!

36 posted on 10/15/2002 11:39:45 AM PDT by 2nd amendment mama
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To: You Dirty Rats
Maybe the construction industry for the highways this sniper is using to escape?

37 posted on 10/15/2002 12:03:04 PM PDT by mushroom
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To: Tumbleweed_Connection
Rep. John Conyers (D-Mich.) is one of the most ignorant and racist SOBs in the world. His word means nothing to anyone.
38 posted on 10/15/2002 2:51:54 PM PDT by PatrioticAmerican
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