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Local psychologist believes sniper kills done by terrorists
Knoxnews.com ^ | Oct. 15, 2002 | J.J. Stambaugh

Posted on 10/15/2002 4:52:49 AM PDT by twntaipan

Local psychologist believes sniper kills done by terrorists By J.J. Stambaugh, News-Sentinel staff writer October 15, 2002

The recent sniper shootings in the Washington, D.C., area are probably terrorist attacks rather than the work of a traditional "spree killer," according to a local psychologist who specializes in violent behavior.

Dr. Helen Smith, a forensic psychologist and author of the book "The Scarred Heart," earned her doctorate from the University of Tennessee in 1994. She often is called to testify as an expert witness in Juvenile Court proceedings; in "The Scarred Heart," she dedicated a chapter to the 1997 Lillelid murder case in Greene County, and she is currently making a documentary on the slayings.

"This is most likely a terrorist act, that's my take on it," Smith said of the D.C.-area shootings, which began Oct. 2 and have claimed the lives of eight people so far. "It's not typical, it just doesn't really meet any of the profiles we look at."

While law enforcement officials say they aren't releasing detailed information about the shootings because of concerns about tipping off possible suspects, Smith said the very nature of the attacks sets them apart from other instances of mass homicide.

"It looks to me like there's more than one person involved, and spree killers generally act alone," she said. "They will normally be in their thirties or forties, male, unemployed - a loner type. Usually, there's also a divorce or other relationship problem.

"But my guess is that there's more than person operating here, a driver and the person doing the shooting. There might even be different teams."

According to Smith, the apparently random nature of the shootings may provide clues as to the shooter's motivations. Serial killers, for instance, tend to single out people of a specific gender, age and ethnic group and often try to strike up a rapport with their prospective victims, Smith said.

"Serial killers are usually practiced and accomplished at what they do, they have normal and acceptable social behavior," she said. "They are usually sexually motivated. They'll get into a fantasy world where they fantasize about a certain kind of person: co-eds, (Playboy) Bunnies, or even homosexual boys, as in the case of Jeffrey Dahmer.

"But spree killers are obviously not getting to know their victims. It's a distance thing - they're disassociating themselves from their victims."

Smith mentioned the 1966 case of Charles Whitman, who shot and killed 14 people and injured dozens more from the top of the University of Texas Tower in Austin as an example of a traditional spree killer: someone who engages in a short, violent killing spree that generally ends with their own death or capture.

According to Smith, the real target of the sniper or snipers in the Washington area is the larger community rather than individuals.

"The anger's not toward the victims, it's toward the community," she said. "People use guns because you can step back, make it impersonal. They're probably not even seeing these people as actual people, but as things or objects used to further their goal, whatever their goal is."

Smith also said the degree of planning, skill and patience needed to sustain the attacks for an extended period of time also leads her to suspect terrorists.

"This is too calculated," she said. "It's cool, it's calm, and it's from a distance. It doesn't sound like the work of a maniac."

Smith also speculated that the investigating police agencies aren't publicly commenting on the possibility that terrorists are behind the shootings because they don't want to hurt the public's morale.

"They're not giving us much information," she said. "They don't want to tell us that because they don't want people to panic ."

No matter what the facts of the case ultimately turn out to be, Smith said one thing is obvious: The shooter or shooters enjoy the attention they're getting.

"This is a person who wants power over the population at large," she said. "They are watching the news . They do a hit and then go home and watch it on TV."

J.J. Stambaugh may be reached at 865-342-6307 or stambaugh@knews.com


TOPICS: Extended News; Front Page News; US: District of Columbia; US: Maryland; US: Virginia
KEYWORDS: profile; psychiatrist; shooting; terrorism; terrorist; washington
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To: Northpaw
not terror-related

And it may well not be. But Al Qaeda hasn't honored us with their claims of responsibility in other situations, either. This does not make complete sense, given that terror is supposedly a mind game. But perhaps they pursue a whole new mind game.

61 posted on 10/15/2002 6:34:23 AM PDT by Mamzelle
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To: Bill Davis FR
Question: I heard on the news last night that the van was seen speeking away EAST on Route 50. Wouldn't that be in the direction AWAY from I-66? I have been there often, but not often enough to remember. Also, I found it odd that a get away van would go 50 EAST. That would take them even further into the metropolitian area--right into downtown D.C. if you followed 50 east! (Opps..forgot the question!) Was that 50 EAST--or maybe was it supposed to be 50 WEST--that the van was speeding away on? It would make more sense in my mind that they would jump onto 50 west and get out of the congestion which they would encounter going 50 east. Anyone know?
62 posted on 10/15/2002 6:36:33 AM PDT by casinva
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To: Bill Davis FR
this home depot was only one mile from I-66

Yes, you're correct. Hadn't thought of that.

Still I believe they're staying off the highways now due to Friday's well-publicized response.

63 posted on 10/15/2002 6:38:13 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Sender
Last night they shut down all the roads right after the shooting,

From what I heard the shooting was at 9:15 and they put up the roadblocks at 9:30. The shooters needed to get off the roads in 15 minutes.

64 posted on 10/15/2002 6:41:23 AM PDT by angkor
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To: Axeslinger
"For this nutjob, gas stations are one of few places where he will have multiple targets, all largely exposed for a length of time and all relatively stationary. I think it is as simple as that."

The self-service gas station is the urban equivalent to the waterhole on the Veldt.

A good place for a predator to station himself...

65 posted on 10/15/2002 6:41:35 AM PDT by okie01
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To: casinva
They may be using the news coverage to further their effect, but I do not think they are as "led" by the media reports as some have believed or suggested. . . .

If this person (or group as many of us feel it might more likely be) was/were motivated by media reports, we would have seen something happen this past weekend. Those reports apparently did not effect them . . . .

You articulate these points very well. I believe this reinforces the belief the shooter(s) have a plan and follow it, regardless of what is reported in the media. We have well disciplined, organized terrorists running this operation IMHO.

66 posted on 10/15/2002 6:41:49 AM PDT by toddst
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To: twntaipan
Agree with you that the news cycle is slower on the weekends, but I still think there is more to not seeing anything this weekend. The news may be conventionally slower, but the law enforcement was certainly out in fast paced action this past weekend in the D.C. metro area! They were all out and visible--They were not slacking in any means (in what all of us here could see!) I think the police were expecting something this past weekend. While the media cycle is slower, and they might want a time with more coverage, I wonder if not shooting this past weekend--with all the taunting they were given this past Friday, was to show their discipline. In a way, they would have used the media to their benefit STILL. They proved no one was controling what they were doing--They were going to do just what they wanted to do. After this weekend, I more lean towards organized foundations to this stuff. They are NOT controled by media. They are USING the media coverage. They are not contolled by it though. (Just my thoughts here!)
67 posted on 10/15/2002 6:45:00 AM PDT by casinva
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To: lentulusgracchus
"Chief Moose looks at times like he is under a tremendous strain"

I think the Chief, although he may be a great cop, is way out of his league on this one.

Why is this investigation not being handled by Homeland Security. I thought we were making such a big deal out of the need to have a threat indicator going at all times, and a single government department to deal with situations such as these. It seems to me that whatever this is, domestic or international terrorism, this was custom ordered to come under the homeland security department.

68 posted on 10/15/2002 6:48:34 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: toddst
Thanks for the compliment on my articulation! I think we see the same things here too!
69 posted on 10/15/2002 6:49:31 AM PDT by casinva
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To: Kerberos
Bin Laden didn't take credit for Sept. 11 except on the tape when among his inner circle that was found in Afghanistan.

This guy is finishing bin Laden's job of wiping out our rights though. Bin Laden has convinced alot of people that our 1st, 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th, 8th and 9th amendment rights are not worth having with his attack. Say bye-bye to our 2nd amendment rights when the politicians get around to responding to this psycho's escapades.

Terrorist or not, this guy is extremely dangerous. I hope he fumbles or the police get lucky soon.
70 posted on 10/15/2002 6:54:03 AM PDT by Jake0001
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To: casinva
The "organized foundations" you mention seem more like the work of a state-intelligence agency than AQ. Might this be an "Iraqi pre-emptive strike?"
71 posted on 10/15/2002 6:55:05 AM PDT by twntaipan
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To: Mark Felton
Your points make sense.I noticed the possible "non-English as a first language" sound of the message.There may be three involved.The two in a recognizable van which would be "clean" if stopped and a shooter with a third,unknown vehicle.However,if the police get the suspect van,they would probably be able to connect it to the possible third vehicle/party.Just speculaing here,but that's all we can do right now.
72 posted on 10/15/2002 6:55:27 AM PDT by steamroller
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To: twntaipan
Sorry, out of my league at this point! (Smile) I only go so far as to think about there being a group that is organized and is acting in a disciplined way.
74 posted on 10/15/2002 6:59:12 AM PDT by casinva
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To: twntaipan
This woman needs to do better research. The Texas Tower shooter had a brain tumor and had no clue what he was doing. Not the same as a healthy person who decides to kill.
75 posted on 10/15/2002 6:59:18 AM PDT by willyone
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To: Intimidator
"This may be true but don't give up on the American people. We are a very resilient people just naive sometimes."

I have not given up, as you point out we tend to be very resilient. However, we do seem, these days at least, to not want to deal with the obvious.

Is this international terrorism? It's hard to say one way or they other, but we should at the very least be willing to consider that as a possibility. However, it seems that LE and the media are going out of their way to explain this in any other terms other than terrorism. I even heard one "profiler" explain this as a couple of teenage kids. If this is teenage kids doing this we should be seriously concerned about the quality of our Homeland Defense and Law Enforcement.

76 posted on 10/15/2002 6:59:22 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: Lobbyist
"Mir Aimal Kansi (a Pakistani) was responsible for the deaths of two CIA..."

If you can find the after action reports, you will find that this was a hit of one CIA target. The drivers of the three other vehicles were shot to box in the target and was a text book hit. He then was on a plane back to the Middle East with in a couple of hours.

77 posted on 10/15/2002 6:59:33 AM PDT by Deguello
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To: twntaipan
bump
78 posted on 10/15/2002 7:00:32 AM PDT by Vinomori
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To: Jake0001
"Say bye-bye to our 2nd amendment rights when the politicians get around to responding to this psycho's escapades."

Or conversely this could be used as a great example as to why we desperately need our second amendment rights. Just depends on who wants to put up the best fight.

" I hope he fumbles or the police get lucky soon."

I'll second that motion.

79 posted on 10/15/2002 7:03:23 AM PDT by Kerberos
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To: Kerberos
I wonder if this guy was on a Reverse-Jihad mission, intending to pop a few Muslims and leave Tarot cards at the scene.
80 posted on 10/15/2002 7:06:48 AM PDT by DC native
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