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School Board Panel: Ohio Students Should Be Taught Evolution, Controversies That Surround It
Associated Press / ABC ^

Posted on 10/14/2002 4:59:49 PM PDT by RCW2001

The Associated Press

COLUMBUS, Ohio Oct. 14 — A state school board panel Monday recommended that Ohio science classes emphasize both evolution and the debate over its validity.

The committee left it up to individual school districts to decide whether to include in the debate the concept of "intelligent design," which holds that the universe is guided by a higher intelligence.

The guidelines for the science curriculum simply put into writing what many school districts already do. The current guidelines do not even mention evolution.

"What we're essentially saying here is evolution is a very strong theory, and students can learn from it by analyzing evidence as it is accumulated over time," said Tom McClain, a board member and co-chairman of the Ohio Board of Education's academic standards committee.

Conservative groups, some of which had tried and failed to get biblical creation taught in the public schools, had argued that students should learn about intelligent design. But critics of intelligent design said it is creationism in disguise.

On Monday, the committee unanimously forwarded a final draft without the concept in it to the full 19-member board.

Board member Michael Cochran, who had pushed for intelligent design in the standards, said, "The amendment allows teachers and students in Ohio to understand that evolution really is a theory and that there are competing views and different interpretations. This allows them to be discussed."

The Ohio school board will decide Tuesday whether to adopt the new standards or order that they be revised.

On the Net:

Ohio Department of Education: http://www.ode.state.oh.us/



TOPICS: Culture/Society; Front Page News; US: Ohio
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To: Right Wing Professor
JP...

Intelligent Design is to biology what Communism is to economics.

Think about it. Meditate on it. Turn it over & over in your head. But let me step out of the room first to avoid the shockwave...

255 posted on 10/18/02 12:15 AM Pacific by jennyp

fC...

Evolution is reverse--backward Truth/history/SCIENCE---LIES
281 posted on 10/18/2002 10:36:22 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Right Wing Professor
Evolution claims that higher species descended from lower, less complex species.

More utter nonsense. Is there anything on which you're capable of an informed opinion?

Well then what the heck does this mean?

Variability from the indirect and direct action of the conditions of life and from use and disuse: a Ratio of Increase so high as to lead to a Struggle for Life, and as a consequence to Natural Selection, entailing Divergence of Character and the Extinction of less-improved forms. Thus, from the war of nature, from famine and death, the most exalted object which we are capable of conceiving, namely, the production of the higher animals, directly follows.

282 posted on 10/18/2002 10:41:22 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
Evolution means you never have to say I'm stable/consistent...you can always revise/twist/morph/spin!
284 posted on 10/18/2002 10:47:16 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: All
Interesting book review from -- of all places -- The New York Times. Here's a sample:
Despite the ingenuity of the neo-creos, the Not Darwinism part of their strategy is pretty clearly a failure. And they have another problem, which might be labeled Not intelligent design. If nature were fashioned by a hands-on Divine Artificer, it ought to exhibit a certain elegance and efficiency. Then what of all the imperfections we see in the biological world? Why are organisms burdened with maladaptive features like the webbed feet of the frigate bird, which does not need them for paddling? Why is our genome littered with nonfunctional junk DNA? Why have 99.99 percent of the species that have ever existed gone extinct -- including the poor dinosaurs, created only to be wiped out by an errant asteroid? As Gould remarks, "Odd arrangements and funny solutions are the proof of evolution -- paths that a sensible God would never tread but that a natural process, constrained by history, follows perforce."
Source: Intelligent Design Creationism and Its Critics.
285 posted on 10/18/2002 10:57:35 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: PatrickHenry
Why is our genome littered with nonfunctional junk DNA?

Another PatrickHenry choice expert!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

Could it be because it is not junk!!!

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!

New Yawk Times

HAHAHAHAHAHA!!!


286 posted on 10/18/2002 11:07:45 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: f.Christian

287 posted on 10/18/2002 11:22:00 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
Patrickplasticplasterhenry...Pravda(truth in russian)!
288 posted on 10/18/2002 11:31:49 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: AndrewC
Evolution means you never have to say I'm stable/consistent/SANE...you can always revise/twist/morph/spin/FLIP/FLOP!


289 posted on 10/18/2002 11:39:38 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: f.Christian
Sounds like OJ is a Darwininian evolutionist.


         “FOR YEARS, I’VE BEEN pretty sure that I did not 

murder my wife,” Simpson said today at a golf course in

 Boca Raton, Fla., where he was taking a rare break from 

searching for the real killers of his wife. “But if

 Johnnie’s not 100 percent sure, I’m like, hey, maybe I

 better take another look at this.”

        Simpson added that it would be “crazy” not to be 

swayed by Cochran’s new statements, which he

 called “thought provoking.”

        “Look, you’re talking about a guy, Johnnie Cochran,

 who is a pretty smart guy,” Simpson said. “If he said maybe

 I did it, then maybe I did it.”
   
   
        Cochran’s doubts about Simpson’s innocence may help

 resolve one lingering mystery for the former Heisman

 Trophy winner:

 why it has been so difficult for him to find his

 wife’s real killers, whom he pledged to hunt down after

 his acquittal in 1995.

        The former NFL star said that, in light of the new 

revelations, he may slow down his search, which he said has
 
occupied almost every waking moment of his life for the 

past seven years.

        “If it turns out that I’m actually the one who did

 it, then looking for the real killers would be a big old

 waste of time,” Simpson said.

 

290 posted on 10/18/2002 11:44:19 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: gore3000
Sorta shows to me that YOU KNOW THAT EVOLUTION IS BUNK AND IT CANNOT BE DEFENDED.

And Creationism/ID is sound science, as shown by the way you defend it through out-of-context quoting and outright lying about what other FReepers have said.
291 posted on 10/18/2002 11:53:06 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Right Wing Professor
Hey! If gore3000 isn't allowed to define evolution with whatever strawman terms he pleases and is required to sticking to the actual scientific definitions and theories then he cannot debunk it as easily!
292 posted on 10/18/2002 11:54:30 AM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
To: Tribune7

Many posters, even many on this site, have vehmently expressed the view that Christianity held back the advancement of human progress,

The charge that Christianity has held back scientific progress is utterly ridiculous. Perhaps the best example of pagan materialistm is atomism. The fortuitous and mindless joining of atoms holds absolutely no prospects for scientific inquiry and neither does the fortuitous and mindless mutations held by present day materialists.

Only theories which deny mindlessness and propose order can be the source of scientific inquiry. It is this belief in order, in natural laws which as stated in our Declaration come from God that has proven to be the source of the scientific spirit and scientific progress in the Christian West.

12 posted on 9/15/02 6:07 AM Pacific by gore3000

293 posted on 10/18/2002 11:56:13 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: Dimensio

As I see it, evolution is an ideological doctrine. If it were only a "scientific theory", it would have died a natural death 50 - 70 years ago; the evidence against it is too overwhelming and has been all along. The people defending it are doing so because they do not like the alternatives to an atheistic basis for science and do not like the logical implications of abandoning their atheistic paradigm and, in conducting themselves that way, they have achieved a degree of immunity to what most people call logic.

488 posted on 7/29/02 5:18 AM Pacific by medved
Great quote. Thanks for posting it.

294 posted on 10/18/2002 11:59:54 AM PDT by AnnaZ
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To: AnnaZ
The evo jihad is trying to get me banned for 'spam'...be careful!
295 posted on 10/18/2002 12:03:36 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: AnnaZ
Keep in mind that the quote comes from someone who believes that the Earth once orbited Saturn.
296 posted on 10/18/2002 12:04:38 PM PDT by Dimensio
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To: Dimensio
The great vast left wing junta/jihad... conspiracy!
297 posted on 10/18/2002 12:11:15 PM PDT by f.Christian
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To: nanrod
Mathematics is commonly referred to as the queen of the sciences.

That's really unfair. At least 30% of the mathematicians I know are straight. (Rimshot)

299 posted on 10/18/2002 12:35:11 PM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: nanrod; PatrickHenry
Quoting the NY Times now? How can you claim to like their science without liking their politics, or are you also a communist?

Can we please add "Evolution = Communism" to that rule (I forget the guy's name) wherein if someone brings up Hitler they thereby lose said argument? So tiresome.
300 posted on 10/18/2002 12:40:26 PM PDT by whattajoke
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