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Who Is Chief Moose? (A Closer Look at the Man Behind the Sniper Investigation)
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| 10/11/02
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Posted on 10/11/2002 8:54:57 PM PDT by MVV
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To: cop_4_ever
Welcome to FR.
121
posted on
10/12/2002 10:23:35 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
To: SunnyUsa
It's not that I think it's wrong for him to be mad or upset, and furious they shot a kid at school... but don't show it like that. Thats more appropriate for the school principal, parent etc, not the man leading the charge to catch this monster!
I sure hope you said that when President Bush cried in the Oval Office the day after the attacks. Showing emotion is NOT bad, if you are REALLY feeling those emotions, instead of faking it like Clintoon used to do.
To: cop_4_ever
One thing I have learned is that education plays a very small role in ones effectiveness as a law enforcement official. I have found that to be true in just about ANY profession, especially lately with the decline in higher education. I've known plenty of folks with advanced degrees who were worthless, and I've known high-school grads and college dropouts who were top-notch. Unfortunately, most organizations do not have effective means for evaluating the ability to think outside the box, namely because they tend to be boxes themselves.
123
posted on
10/12/2002 10:26:04 AM PDT
by
dirtboy
To: MVV
JOKING ASIDE I think this officer is doing a great job considering he has virtually nothing to work with and now with the fbi and other law enforcment there working either with him of against he has to jugle the media and this freak sniper without pissing off eother one
Yes the pressure is on and he is taking it very well
To: gratefulwharffratt
"front of the poeple here," = "front of the people here,"
To: gratefulwharffratt
Relax.
To: sneakypete; nicmarlo
Stop the flamewar NOW. If I have to remove another one of you replies you will be suspended.
To: Sidebar Moderator
Well, at least you had the decency to address both parties! Things are looking up!
128
posted on
10/12/2002 12:38:53 PM PDT
by
Chapita
To: gratefulwharffratt
The school one attends to become an educated self-made man:
http://www.upa.pdx.edu/USP/
Portland State University's School of Urban Studies and Planning is the home of the nation's oldest continuously operating instructional program in urban studies.
To: justsomedude; BlueLancer; MississippiDeltaDawg
130
posted on
10/12/2002 1:00:35 PM PDT
by
dighton
To: ValerieUSA
The school one attends to become an educated self-made man:
And I hold a useless degree in JOURNALISM/MEDIA STUDIES from the University of North Quran-olina at Greensboro. EASILY the center of Leftist indoctrination in this State.
And I also have a Southern accent.
Dr. Moose grew up about 10 miles from me.
What are you trying to say??
You might as well say that since President Bush has a Southern accent, and has trouble speaking extemporaneously, and ONLY has a Master's Degree, that he is incompetent too.
Do you have ANY helpful suggestions about how Dr. Moose can catch the sniper, or only snide, arrogant remarks meant to tear the man down?? Do YOU hold a Doctorate, in ANY academic discipline?? From ANY University??
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Disclaimer: FJ Mitchell came up with the term describing UNC.
To: gratefulwharffratt
I did feel it was appropriate with President Bush, and even Guiliani if he had shed any tears in public... I also consider the magnitude of the situation...SEPT 11th was unbelievable horror for everyone including our leaders.
With this Chief, he just lost it a little too much for me - but I'm mostly talking about his tirades about how he feels about things, and yelling at the media etc...not so much his tearful moment.
To: gratefulwharffratt
I think that Sheriff Moose has a dislike for the media and find it cumbersome to his job. I think he would rather be investigating than to make numerous scheduled unecessary updates, when there has been no change or progress in the ongoing investigation. Answering or not answering repeated stupid questions that should not be asked in the first place. I believe that if LE has something important that the citizens need to know they will inform us.
Constantly Fox, MSNBC has news alerts flashing on the screne all day, when in actuality some are not news alerts. The media has stepped over the line in their quest for ratings.
Remember the media mini series of the 3 medical students on their way to Florida and the female Georgia tipster. Holy cow, that took 2 weeks, every news talk show, attorneys, and the tipster being hospitalized just because some in the news media want to be first to get the story out, even before they actually know what is going on. Reporting half truths, lies, opionions, exaggerations, and what have you. And then they have the audacity to wonder why one does not want to be interviewed.
If anyone is stupid, I think that title belongs to some of the media crowd because they ask stupid questions that they know cannot and/or will not be answered.
Some are not as articulate as others. I believe if there was not someone there to write GWB's speeches for him, he would consistantly come out with all his guns ablazing and still receive cheers and applause. Its all in who you are. Just think about Rev. Jesse Lee Peterson Some on here applaude him but that is because he is agaist Jesse Jackson. But I have never heard any reference about his speech pattern. Don't know much about Charles Moose, but from day one it was obvious that he was thrushed in a limelight that he does not enjoy. After all this is not COPS.
133
posted on
10/12/2002 3:52:46 PM PDT
by
TexKat
To: TexKat
**********"I think that Sheriff Moose has a dislike for the media and find it cumbersome to his job."*********************
That's odd! He spends more time in front of the cameras than Jesse Jackson!
134
posted on
10/12/2002 3:57:45 PM PDT
by
Chapita
To: TexasCajun
Hmmm....good question!
135
posted on
10/12/2002 4:01:39 PM PDT
by
MVV
To: Chapita
I don't believe it is because he wants to, I think it is apart of his job unfortunately for him.
136
posted on
10/12/2002 4:02:44 PM PDT
by
TexKat
To: Stop Legal Plunder
Very prevelant these days.
137
posted on
10/12/2002 4:03:09 PM PDT
by
MVV
To: ATOMIC_PUNK
I agree. I really feel for him and he is handling the press just great.
FReegards, MVV
138
posted on
10/12/2002 4:10:02 PM PDT
by
MVV
To: gratefulwharffratt
Dr Moose could stop the press conferences which fed the bloody frenzy and gave the atttacker the feeling of power and gratification which spurred him on to commit more and more murders in this exciting killing spree.
Moose could realize his own gross mistake in mentioning schools in every sentence during the first dozen unnecessary press conferences before any school student was shot. That was irresponsible and pandering to the very press he claims is jeopardizing public safety. He may as well have handed the sniper a list of the addresses and schedules of the district's schools.
The politically correct police are investigating along predictable lines - the contemptuous terrorist can read them like a book and is taunting their incompetence.
Do you think the shooter didn't see the trooper across the street from his latest victim at the gas station in Virginia? It's a wonder he didn't miss the shot from laughing so hard at his own clever irony.
The thing is, this shooter is not particularly clever. He's a fantasyland maniac living out the American movie dream like it's a run-of-the-mill Hollywood script.
He has not been caught. Moose needs to consider that this villain is not the casting director's first choice and could be someone he doesn't want it to be.
So far the crimes look random, but if they are personal, then are they are a personal vendetta against the police.
To: TexKat
Charles Moose was Portland Mayor Vera Katz's first police chief, at 39 the youngest ever to be appointed to that job and the first African American as well. By breaking the color barrier with Moose, who had worked at the bureau for 18 years, Katz burnished her reputation as one who would hire the best candidate available, regardless of color. While Moose's record was eventually a mixed one -- his support for community policing and his personal integrity were undercut by his volatility -- there was little question at the time that Moose deserved the nod.
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