Loose rules for guns strengthen ‘sniper subculture’

cantonrep.com ^ | Friday, October 11, 2002 | Marie Cocco

[RogueIsland]

The subculture even has its own cult figure, the late Carlos Hathcock, who as a Marine sniper in Vietnam was credited with the longest confirmed kill in history. It defies experience to believe that this blizzard of violent fantasy will not effect the greater society. It defies experience to believe that this blizzard of violent fantasy will not effect the greater society.

Diaz must not be a student of culture and history, or he would realize that the Warrior of any culture has always been an object of fascination among the populace. It is one of the few constants that cuts across all places and all centuries. There might be a few exceptions, although those cultures probably vanished rather quickly beneath the phalanxes of those societies that valued the Warrior.

[Euro-American Scum]

Arm the citizens who qualify. There should be a NATIONAL permit to carry a concealed weapon.

We already have a national carry permit. It's called the Second Amendment.

[RLK]

Fifty years ago gun laws in this country were nearly nonexistent. You could buy rifles and even 20mm antitank rifles through magazine ads and over the phone. Yet we didn't see 1/20 of the lunatic violence seen today. I'd like to hear an explanation form Ms McCarthy as to why this is so.

[Michael Barnes]

the right of 'the people to keep and bear Arms, shall not be infringed.

I hear say that the next arguments to come down the pike from liberal friends is that the reason concealment is not allowed is because the Consitution does not say so. Their (liberals) going to parse language again....bear

Personally, I have no problem carrying iron on my hip in a holster. Just means I can pull it that much quicker..Food for thought, although I do share in your sentiments..

[45Auto]

The tone of these a**holes shows the contempt they have for the average American citizen. They would have us believe that the mere existence of a gun, anywhere, causes your ordinary, average guy to go on a shooting rampage. How moronic do they think we are?

If their hypothesis was true, then we ought not allow police to be armed, since "one never knows, does one?" By their illogic, no one can be trained in the safe and efficient use of arms, since the guns themselves cause uncontrollable madness.

If they have their way, we are finished as a nation because we will no longer be able to field a professional army, nor any of the armed law enforcement agencies. The outcome will be a lot like England, where criminals, now assured that no one will be able to stop them, roam free.

[old school]

Tony Diaz ain't got the huevos to personally come and "take" your guns away from you or anybody else. So, he ought to shut-the-hell-up!

[Beenliedto]

Personally, I have no problem carrying iron on my hip in a holster. Just means I can pull it that much quicker..Food for thought, although I do share in your sentiments..

Well, yes... but I have neighbors, and they get uncomfortable when they see me doing that, so there are social considerations....

Although in North carolina, that is perfectly legal.

I hold a CCW, but I'm not sure that I should.

Someone on another thread a couple of days ago suggested that the proper CCW permit is a laminated copy of the 2nd Amendment.

Wonder what the LEO would say?

[Aric2000]

Many states have in their constitituion a disclaimer that concealed weapons are not covered by their right to bear arms amendments.

Washington is one of these, and so is Oregon. If the 10th amendment is taken seriously, then THOSE states have a right to regulate concealed weapons, but because of the 14th amendment, they actually cannot, so what you said, in a strictly legal sense is true. Now, if you think an elected official will EVER admit it, I have a bridge in Brooklyn that I can sell you, CHEAP!!

[<1/1,000,000th%]

“Did he buy his gun at a gun show?” McCarthy asked of the sniper, who experts say is using high-velocity, military-style bullets designed to cause maximum damage to a target. “Did he go through one of the loopholes that we have been trying to close?”

And did she also vote to make all these people defenseless???

[TERMINATTOR]

The Constitution just protects our inalienable God given rights. Even without a Constitution we still have the right to keep and bear arms. Permits and other arms infringements are specifically prohibited by the second amendment. Obey real laws, ignore unconstitutional legislation, and keep and bear whatever arms you wish. Obeying unconstitutional "laws" is illegal! Anyone who is involved in arms legislation, enforcement or prosecution, is just a criminal who hasn't been caught yet.

Molon Labe !

[45Auto]

The answer is that you can almost chart the rise in gun violence by the rise in gun laws. That is the only statistical correlation that directly relates gun violence to time. By that standard, we ought to repeal damn near every gun law on the books; that way, crime should drop to near zero.

[templar]

In my state of Zoo Jersey you need a permit to buy a BB gun

You're kidding, aren't you?

[dark_lord]

Even if the gun-grabbers repealed the 2nd amendment (never happen) and made owning a rifle a crime punished by the death penalty - crimes like this current terrorist would occur. Face it - if the guy (gal, guys, whatever) are captured, they are up for the death penalty unless they die in a shoot out with the cops anyway. He/she/they/it are DEAD DEAD DEAD. So any gun penalty laws are completely meaningless, but since the liberals only operate from their "feelings" rather than their nonexistent brains it is pointless to try to argue with them.

That said - giving everyone concealed carry for handguns, heck - requiring every US citizen over the age of 18 to be trained and to carry a handgun - would not have stopped or stop this terrorist, since this character shoots people in the back, from concealment, from a distance, with his/her getaway vehicle on hand.

[an amused spectator]

Marie 'Caca' Cocco is a raving lunatic lefty who worships at the altar of Bill Clinton's lap. She hates Republicans with a passion, and never misses a chance to bash a conservative. She is an oft-featured "writer" on the Smirking Chimp, a left-wing Free Republic wannabe.

[primeval patriot]

Tony Diaz ain't got the huevos to personally come and "take" your guns away from you or anybody else. So, he ought to shut-the-hell-up!

But he sure knows how to whip the soccer moms into a snivelling, big government loving frenzy.

[primeval patriot]

The tone of these a**holes shows the contempt they have for the average American citizen.

Yep. It's breathtaking.

[primeval patriot]

Diaz must not be a student of culture and history, or he would realize that the Warrior of any culture has always been an object of fascination among the populace. It is one of the few constants that cuts across all places and all centuries. There might be a few exceptions, although those cultures probably vanished rather quickly beneath the phalanxes of those societies that valued the Warrior.

Well said.

[45Auto]

Diaz, like his buddies,is a lying sack of excrement. There is no gun culture or sniper culture. This is another invention like the non-existent problem with the AR 15, the dreaded black AW. These people prey on the weak-minded among us (of which there are, unfortunately, many examples, some right in the US Senate) having them believe that the gun itself causes people to go mad and start shooting innocents.

Their hypothesis would have us think that no one can be trained in the safe and efficient use of arms, nor that guns are useful self-defense tools. Mark my word: these people will eventually call for the disarming of all law enforcement once they have succeeded in disarming the citizenry at large.

[templar]

If their hypothesis was true, then we ought not allow police to be armed, since "one never knows, does one?"

Actualy, I think police do have a higher incidence of misusing firearms than the general gun owning public.

[templar]

Wonder what the LEO would say?

You're under arrest?