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1 posted on 10/11/2002 3:18:30 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff
What a great message to send to people who are trying to keep our borders secure. "Leave it to the professionals who aren't doing diddly squat, or we'll bust you." Hopefully this won't lead frustrated citizens to take up the DC approach to trespasser apprehension.
2 posted on 10/11/2002 3:22:21 PM PDT by mvpel
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PING!!! Please ping your usual Border/Immigration List and get involved!
3 posted on 10/11/2002 3:27:13 PM PDT by Spiff
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please keep us posted on developments
4 posted on 10/11/2002 3:33:28 PM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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Please keep me posted.
5 posted on 10/11/2002 3:41:53 PM PDT by GovernmentShrinker
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This could get big and ugly.
6 posted on 10/11/2002 3:45:25 PM PDT by A Navy Vet
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The charge will be kidnapping
According to the video Roger got a call informing him of this, and that he suspects the kidnapping charge will be for him transporting illegal aliens when he helped out the border patrol move them around.
7 posted on 10/11/2002 3:49:11 PM PDT by lelio
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Arizona PING!
8 posted on 10/11/2002 4:17:01 PM PDT by Spiff
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If this is true, the FBI will live to regret this illegal and reprehensible action. This will make Bagdad look like Ned in the first! Everyone in southern states boardering Mexico is on their last nerve about illegal immigration.

I dare the FBI to pick on a citizen, who many consider to be a hero, for upholding our laws that chicken sh*t politicians won't enforce. Bush and Company better make sure this arrest doesn't happen, or there will be hell to pay.
13 posted on 10/11/2002 4:22:34 PM PDT by demkicker
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This violates the dumocrats get the vote out initiative...
No wonder someones pissed.
16 posted on 10/11/2002 4:30:02 PM PDT by hosepipe
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Well, now that I've got everyone's attention - does anyone have any ideas?
18 posted on 10/11/2002 4:36:03 PM PDT by Spiff
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ping
19 posted on 10/11/2002 4:38:38 PM PDT by Spiff
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Spiff,

If the feds try to turn the transporting of illegal aliens, pursuant to a lawful "citizen's arrest", into an act of kidnapping, then you are probably covered by state law (state law will prevail here). Each state's code is slightly different, but I post the relevant California Penal Code provision below by way of an example of what's typical.

"A private person who has arrested another for the commission of a public offense must, without unnecessary delay, take the person arrested before a magistrate, or deliver him or her to a peace officer." -- California Penal Code §847 (in relevant part)
Notice that the arresting party is authorized to transport said prisoners. In fact, it would be impossible to make a citizen's arrest without such a provision.

If they want to play stupid harassment games and follow through on the kidnapping arrest, then turn it around on the SOB's and file a Title 42 Civil Rights action (42 USC §1981, et al.) against them. Then, you can sue not only the agents and superiors involved, in their official capacity, but you can also sue them in their private capacity. IOW, you can go after their homes, 401K's, cars, etc. and tie them up for years. That should get their attention and deliver the appropriate message.

Please include me in your ping list of persons to be kept updated on this issue.

Regards,

Boot Hill

21 posted on 10/11/2002 4:53:49 PM PDT by Boot Hill
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Links about Roger Barnett:

Barnett target of protest

[Washington Times] Border rancher fights to stem flood of aliens

Vigilante or Minuteman? Rancher goes high-tech to nab immigrants, smugglers

[USA Today] Armed rancher acts as one-man border

[AZ Daily Star] AZ RANCHER A VICTIM OF MASSIVE ILLEGAL IMMIGRATION

Rancher detains 27 illegal entrants

22 posted on 10/11/2002 5:03:13 PM PDT by Spiff
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Roger Barnett ping!
27 posted on 10/11/2002 6:02:38 PM PDT by madfly
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ping
28 posted on 10/11/2002 6:04:23 PM PDT by madfly
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I would turn out in person, but it might be too late for that coming from Atlanta ... what can I do from here? ($$/emails/calls, etc.)

Keep us informed on what happens ...
30 posted on 10/11/2002 6:23:37 PM PDT by spodefly
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Is it a war on drugs or a war on the American people? Now what is the war on terrorism?
31 posted on 10/11/2002 6:36:42 PM PDT by PuNcH
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This flies in the face of a citizens right to make an arrest, especially on his private property. Is the government going completely lawless and insane? Please keep us informed.
32 posted on 10/11/2002 6:42:59 PM PDT by MissAmericanPie
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Paranoid as I may be, this is a long stretch.
Bush is in no position to sanction an arrest of a citizen defending his property, his country, or his rights.

Fox and others, on his side and opposing him, might enjoy such a huge stumble.

The law does give a citizen the right to restrain and deliver a law breaker regardless of the law breaker's current status as protected alien species.

Until proven wrong, I'll stick with the view that this is bogus.

34 posted on 10/11/2002 6:48:51 PM PDT by norton
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Please put me on your ping list
37 posted on 10/11/2002 7:00:37 PM PDT by EverOnward
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