1 posted on
10/11/2002 3:18:30 PM PDT by
Spiff
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To: Spiff
What a great message to send to people who are trying to keep our borders secure. "Leave it to the professionals who aren't doing diddly squat, or we'll bust you." Hopefully this won't lead frustrated citizens to take up the DC approach to trespasser apprehension.
2 posted on
10/11/2002 3:22:21 PM PDT by
mvpel
To: Tancredo Fan
PING!!! Please ping your usual Border/Immigration List and get involved!
3 posted on
10/11/2002 3:27:13 PM PDT by
Spiff
To: Spiff
please keep us posted on developments
To: Spiff
Please keep me posted.
To: Spiff
This could get big and ugly.
To: Spiff
The charge will be kidnapping
According to the video Roger got a call informing him of this, and that he suspects the kidnapping charge will be for him transporting illegal aliens when he helped out the border patrol move them around.
7 posted on
10/11/2002 3:49:11 PM PDT by
lelio
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Arizona PING!
8 posted on
10/11/2002 4:17:01 PM PDT by
Spiff
To: Spiff
If this is true, the FBI will live to regret this illegal and reprehensible action. This will make Bagdad look like Ned in the first! Everyone in southern states boardering Mexico is on their last nerve about illegal immigration.
I dare the FBI to pick on a citizen, who many consider to be a hero, for upholding our laws that chicken sh*t politicians won't enforce. Bush and Company better make sure this arrest doesn't happen, or there will be hell to pay.
To: Spiff
our border patrol is a joke.Please keep us posted . Let us know if you need a defense fund.
To: Spiff
This violates the dumocrats get the vote out initiative...
No wonder someones pissed.
16 posted on
10/11/2002 4:30:02 PM PDT by
hosepipe
To: Spiff
Well, now that I've got everyone's attention - does anyone have any ideas?
18 posted on
10/11/2002 4:36:03 PM PDT by
Spiff
To: Jeff Head
ping
19 posted on
10/11/2002 4:38:38 PM PDT by
Spiff
To: Spiff; lelio
Spiff,
If the feds try to turn the transporting of illegal aliens, pursuant to a lawful "citizen's arrest", into an act of kidnapping, then you are probably covered by state law (state law will prevail here). Each state's code is slightly different, but I post the relevant California Penal Code provision below by way of an example of what's typical.
"A private person who has arrested another for the commission of a public offense must, without unnecessary delay, take the person arrested before a magistrate, or deliver him or her to a peace officer." -- California Penal Code §847 (in relevant part)
Notice that the arresting party is authorized to transport said prisoners. In fact, it would be impossible to make a citizen's arrest without such a provision.
If they want to play stupid harassment games and follow through on the kidnapping arrest, then turn it around on the SOB's and file a Title 42 Civil Rights action (42 USC §1981, et al.) against them. Then, you can sue not only the agents and superiors involved, in their official capacity, but you can also sue them in their private capacity. IOW, you can go after their homes, 401K's, cars, etc. and tie them up for years. That should get their attention and deliver the appropriate message.
Please include me in your ping list of persons to be kept updated on this issue.
Regards,
Boot Hill
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22 posted on
10/11/2002 5:03:13 PM PDT by
Spiff
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Roger Barnett ping!
27 posted on
10/11/2002 6:02:38 PM PDT by
madfly
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ping
28 posted on
10/11/2002 6:04:23 PM PDT by
madfly
To: Spiff
I would turn out in person, but it might be too late for that coming from Atlanta ... what can I do from here? ($$/emails/calls, etc.)
Keep us informed on what happens ...
30 posted on
10/11/2002 6:23:37 PM PDT by
spodefly
To: Spiff
Is it a war on drugs or a war on the American people? Now what is the war on terrorism?
31 posted on
10/11/2002 6:36:42 PM PDT by
PuNcH
To: Spiff
This flies in the face of a citizens right to make an arrest, especially on his private property. Is the government going completely lawless and insane? Please keep us informed.
To: Spiff
Paranoid as I may be, this is a long stretch.
Bush is in no position to sanction an arrest of a citizen defending his property, his country, or his rights.
Fox and others, on his side and opposing him, might enjoy such a huge stumble.
The law does give a citizen the right to restrain and deliver a law breaker regardless of the law breaker's current status as protected alien species.
Until proven wrong, I'll stick with the view that this is bogus.
34 posted on
10/11/2002 6:48:51 PM PDT by
norton
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