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Alert! Roger Barnett Threatened With Arrest ^ | 11 October 2002 | The American Border Patrol

Posted on 10/11/2002 3:18:30 PM PDT by Spiff

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To: Spiff
The FBI should be arresting traitorous idiots like Arizona
Gov Jane Hull for her not doing her damn job and helping
people like Barnett. She is and has been nothing but
cover for the scum illegals who trash the Arizona-Mexican
border. Good riddance to her!!!
122 posted on 10/12/2002 7:46:40 PM PDT by jragan2001
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To: CWRWinger
El Presidente Bush is headed toward a one-term presidency
anyway. He is so damn concerned about Iraq, yet turns
a blind eye towards our still-unsecured southern border,
even after 9/11 last year.

Ask yourselves-why the hell are we doing having 37,000
US troops on the Korean peninsula and troops in places
like Germany, yet won't protect people like Mr. Barnett
and other US citizens under invasion by the corrupt
Mexican country??
123 posted on 10/12/2002 7:52:36 PM PDT by jragan2001
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To: jragan2001
RE: Post #123

There needs to be support for ranchers and citizens by local and federal government. Not persecution. What the government is doing to Mr. Barnett is not moral or ethical.

You make strong points in your comments. The government needs to answer to the people for their lack of action.

124 posted on 10/12/2002 8:35:56 PM PDT by CWRWinger
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To: FreedomFriend
Barnett seems like a good guy- hope he can keep doing what he's doing.
125 posted on 10/12/2002 8:47:07 PM PDT by mafree
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To: mafree; Spiff; Boot Hill
Any update on this news item ?
126 posted on 10/15/2002 3:31:30 PM PDT by jokar
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To: jokar
Any update on this news item ?

Nothing yet. American Patrol even removed the alert from their website. I'll try to get in touch with Roger Barnett and see if he has any updates or news.

127 posted on 10/15/2002 4:12:20 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff
I just got off the phone with Roger and he's seen no action yet on the threat. He is convinced that the threat is real as his source received the info directly from a federal agent. He says that this is purely harrassment and that it is probably in response to some derogatory things he said recently about Tucson Sector Border Patrol Chief David Aguilar.

After talking to him, I'm concerned about his legal representation in this particular matter. He's got lawyers for his business, but I don't think he's well represented for this sort of thing. If anyone has any ideas, please post them.

Ah - I just thought of a good constitutional attorney I know that would probably love to take this case. He's taken cases like this one. I will contact him.

Also, the Center For Justice (headed by G.Gordon Liddy's son) in Tempe, Arizona may be a good organization to help with this one too. I'll give them a call.

Any other ideas?

128 posted on 10/15/2002 4:27:00 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: Spiff
No Man's Land
Accuracy in Media
11 October 2002
Notra Trulock

The Border Patrol appears on the verge of declaring victory in its campaign to control illegal immigration along our border with Mexico. It says that for the first time since 1989 it will arrest fewer than one million people crossing illegally this year. Apparently, the Border Patrol hasn't been listening to the residents of Cochise County, Arizona, who share an 84-mile border with Mexico. Maybe that's because Tucson sector officials recently disbanded a Citizens Advisory Board, after it became too critical of the Patrol's failure to stem the flood of illegal crossings in their county.

The Border Patrol's strategy has focused on erecting barriers along heavily traveled sectors of Mexico's border with Texas and California. The overall effect, however, has been to channel illegal immigration into Arizona. Barriers were erected at Arizona entry points at Nogales and Douglas to push illegal crossers into areas the Patrol thought would be easier to monitor and control.

That strategy has clearly failed. Good numbers are hard to come by, but the Border Patrol says that it apprehends about one in five illegal crossers.

Over a six-month period it says that it apprehended 160,000 illegals; if true, that means nearly 650,000 made it across safely.

Local ranchers believe that only about one in ten are caught, meaning that nearly 1.3 million make it across.

Obviously the Patrol has been unable to successfully interdict the steady streams of illegals that ranchers see crossing their property almost nightly.

The ranchers have photographed illegal aliens in groups of forty or fifty moving along established trails, complete with way stations. The way stations are stocked with food and water, sometimes supplied by local high school kids recruited and well-paid by the coyotes who lead these groups. Each morning the ranchers police up debris from the previous night's crossings: water bottles, half-eaten food, discarded clothing, human waste, and sometimes prescription medicines and syringes.

Border crossers are nothing new for the ranchers, but they noticed a change in the character of the groups in the mid-1990s, which they say has turned Cochise County into a "no man's land." Drug smuggling is rampant; the ranchers report men wearing black ski masks, armed with AK-47 assault rifles, escorting others carrying backpacks presumably loaded with marijuana or cocaine. Drug smugglers have been blamed for the recent killing of a National Park Service ranger and a spate of other shootings along the border.

Formerly believed to be mostly Mexican, locals think these groups are now composed of largely Central and South Americans. These OTMs (Other Than Mexicans-a formal Border Patrol category) have been more prone to vandalism and have also proven more violent in encounters with local ranchers. Equally worrisome, the ranchers report growing numbers of Middle Eastern, Asian, and South Asian groups crossing their lands.

Although congressional reports label these sightings "unconfirmed," the Border Patrol has apprehended Yemenis, Egyptians, Iraqis, Pakistanis, and Iranians. One rancher photographed a group of Indian nationals apprehended by the Border Patrol; another reported the presence of 35 Iranians in his front yard one Thanksgiving Day morning. The Arab crossers reportedly pay well and often travel in vans, which are then abandoned when they reach their destinations.

But the numbers don't begin to tell the real story of the impact on Cochise County. The county has experienced increased lawlessness, severe health care and environmental consequences, and the destruction of property values. The locals fear that previously eradicated diseases and viruses that are unknown locally are passing through the area. Local health care professionals lack training to make correct diagnoses, but Border Patrol agents now wear latex gloves and face masks due to the increasing number of detainees with obvious afflictions. One local hospital has closed its long-term-care ward and virtually all maternity/child care services in the County have been closed due to the uncompensated emergency care dispensed to injured or sick border crossers. Local business and tourism suffer.

The uneven application of the Border Patrol's strategy has created a nightmare for the residents of Cochise County. When the national media covers the story, it focuses mostly on the travails of illegal border crossers, while local ranchers are demonized as gun-toting, racist vigilantes. Cochise County ranchers want the U.S. military to guard the border until the Border Patrol can effectively assume these duties, but the White House resists this due to "cultural and historic reasons." Both political parties are hoping for a large Hispanic turnout in upcoming elections and fear alienating potential voters. Meanwhile, tensions in Cochise County continue to grow.

Notra Trulock is an Associate Editor at Accuracy in Media

129 posted on 10/15/2002 4:39:31 PM PDT by Spiff
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To: jokar
Haven't heard anything myself.
130 posted on 10/15/2002 8:55:14 PM PDT by mafree
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To: mafree
Two Illegal Immigrants Shot To Death In Pinal County


Pinal County authorities are looking for a man who opened fire on a group of illegal immigrants in a desert area near Red Rock Wednesday afternoon. Two were killed, and an unknown amount of others were injured.

Investigators say a group of at least 12 immigrants were gathered at a stock pond when somebody drove up, got out of the vehicle, and opened fire. Some of the immigrants were able to run for cover. A helicopter was looking for other survivors Wednesday night, but had found nothing. Authorities are now shifting their focus towards finding the gunman.

Shell casings from a rifle and handgun were found at the scene. The immigrants have given a description of the man to authorities, but information is still coming slowly, due to the language barrier.

Deputies do not believe the shooting is related to "wildcat" shooters, who commonly use the area for target practice.

131 posted on 10/18/2002 10:03:54 AM PDT by mvpel
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To: mvpel
132 posted on 10/18/2002 4:07:54 PM PDT by mafree
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To: Spiff
When he sets up a legal defense fund, be sure to ping me, I will donate.
133 posted on 10/18/2002 4:09:37 PM PDT by Rodney King
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To: Spiff
To the poster who was zotted:
You know, my Granddad took a few shots at Pancho Villa, or at least he might have, for he served under Blackjack Pershing. There in southern Texas, and later in Europe. Then he made it back on a crowed troopship to the USA and did many jobs which some elite friends you have might say are "Jobs Americans won't do."

That phrase, amigo, is a big lie. And a lie to represent that the US isn't doing much more for both honest and illegal immigrants what Mexico does! Mexico arrests and imprisons and deports those from the south of it such as Guatemala -- a country which is the butt of jokes by Mexicans, so I have heard when I lived awhile in Mexico City.

I also know that while Mexico is proud of its heritage it includes BOTH European and Indian forebearers in that heritage. For example one Mexican, more Indian than European told me he thought his tribe's language was descended from Japanese. He had been to Japan and found many similar words. And I know the tree under which Cortez cried is still maintained as a shrine, to this day. I have seen it. Cortez's memory is respected!

I know that Mexicans can be fiercely protective of their territory and rights.

Well, amigo, please understand that we in the US must equally be protective of ours. It is NOT a racial thing.

We are happy to see your country do well, yet not by stealing our jobs and destroying borderland ranches and property, or by sending narcotics in huge amounts to enslave and destroy our weakest and most vulnerable citizens. Our jails are overflowing with many of your countrymen who either came here with evil at heart or perhaps once arrived here, far from the ancient restraints of their accustomed culture, who fell into evil and took it (sadly) into heart and vile actions.

Where is YOUR heart for los perdidos?

135 posted on 04/03/2006 6:47:47 PM PDT by bvw
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