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Interest in Latin Rising in Schools
abcnews ^ | 11/10/02

Posted on 10/11/2002 11:09:55 AM PDT by Jakarta ex-pat

A funny thing happened on the way to higher standards: Schools remembered Latin.

As educators work to improve student performance in basic subjects such as reading, math, history and science, a few are finding that Latin, long thought stuffy and irrelevant, can help.

Classes in Latin, which once attracted only college-bound students, are drawing youngsters from all backgrounds. Sales of Latin textbooks and materials are up, and even elementary schools are starting programs. The number of students taking Advanced Placement exams in Latin is nearly double what it was a decade ago.

"I think Latin always traditionally comes to the fore when people think about raising standards because it's a bedrock subject," said Marion Polsky, a Latin teacher in Scarsdale, N.Y., and author of a popular series of basic Latin textbooks.

Science uses Latin for everything from medical terminology to genus and species classification. Although Latin is no longer spoken, it once spread with the Roman empire across Europe, Asia and northern Africa and is the root of modern Romance languages such as Spanish, Italian and French.

Teachers love the cross-pollination of Latin terms with English, as well as science and history, said Frank Morris, an associate professor of classics at the College of Charleston.

"One of the things that makes Latin appealing to teachers is that it does multiple things for them," he said. "It has a very broad application."

Kyle Seton, a senior at Chancellor High School in Fredericksburg, Va., agreed. "We learn a lot of English terminology in here. We go more in-depth than English (class) would."

The love affair with Latin is especially hot in Virginia, Texas and Massachusetts, three states pushing heavily for higher standards.

At Chancellor, Mark Keith teaches five Latin classes daily. Early one recent morning he greeted students with a chipper, "Salvete, discipuli!" (Greetings, students!)

They responded, a bit sleepily, "Salve, magister." (Greetings, teacher.)

"Quomodo sentitis hodie?" (How do you feel today?)

Responses varied.

The lesson began with a translation of the Spotsylvania County motto. He tapped on the chalk board beneath the words "Patior ut potiar." (I suffer in order that I may possess.)

Several students quickly offered slicker translations.

One raised his hand and said: "I work for a living."

Another: "No pain no gain."

A third sang to himself, "I work hard for the money...."

Getting students to focus on speaking the language helps keep them interested, educators say.

"Instead of just drearily memorizing charts and not understanding how to apply the information, it's taught more as a natural language," said Polsky.

Forget verb conjugations. Latin students these days are talking, singing and translating love poems. A glass case outside Keith's room is stuffed with trophies from speaking competitions.

"I always tell students, `We're here to communicate with the Romans,'" Keith said.

Even with the new focus, enrollments are nowhere near the level of 100 or even 50 years ago, when studying Latin was often required.

In 1895, about 44 percent of American students took Latin, driven in no small part by the fact that it was the language of the Catholic Church. By 1962, after the Vatican began letting churches use their native languages, less than 7 percent of students were studying Latin.

The American Council on the Teaching of Foreign Languages reports that in 1990, there were 163,923 public high school students or 1.5 percent studying Latin. Ten years later, 177,477 public high school students or 1.3 percent took the language.

The College Board, which administers Advanced Placement exams, said the number of high school students taking Latin tests for college credit has risen 95 percent since 1993. Sales of Latin materials, including Polsky's books, have risen steadily since the mid-1990s, said Cathy Wilson of Pearson Prentice Hall.

Since Virginia began implementing its stringent Standards of Learning tests in the mid-1990s, Keith said he has begun teaching not only college-bound students, but also teens who don't plan to attend college.

Younger students get a mouthful of Latin when they read the popular Harry Potter books. "Expelliarmus," a recurring spell that disarms an opponent, is Latin for "disarm."

That fact isn't lost on Marie Davis, a full-time Latin teacher at Daniels Run Elementary School in suburban Fairfax, Va. She refers to the books periodically.

Striding recently into a third-grade classroom wearing a stola, or long dress, and a capella a haircap made of braided wire Davis handed out folders.

"Ubi est Connor?" (Where is Connor?)

A tiny hand went up. "Hic sum." (Here I am.)

"Ubi est Diego?"

After handing out the folders, Davis guided the class again, quickly through a counting lesson, "de uno ad triginta" (from one to 30), then on to a lesson on word roots.

It helps students learn vocabulary, "as opposed to just memorizing it," she said afterward.

"Economics," for instance, comes from the same root as "ecosphere" "eco," or "oikos," originally a Greek term meaning "house."

She said proudly, "They know what an 'oikos' is in third grade."


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To: Welsh Rabbit
Di! Ecce Hora! Uxor mea me necabet!
21 posted on 10/11/2002 11:45:40 AM PDT by patton
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To: Conagher
Just an aside, did you know that whole troupe consists of a bunch of unemployed classics majors?

I wasn't aware of that, but I recently found out that John Cleese's Faulty Towers was based on a real life incident where the Monty Python cast was staying in an inn where the owner was extremely cranky and combative with his guests. The rest of the crew found another hotel the next day, but John Cleese stayed on and took notes.
22 posted on 10/11/2002 11:47:51 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit
Fascinating! I hadn't heard about that.
23 posted on 10/11/2002 11:49:07 AM PDT by Conagher
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To: Vladiator
hic
haec
hoc

- and -

is
ea
id

just like riding a bike!

24 posted on 10/11/2002 11:49:46 AM PDT by RightField
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To: RightField
A lot of us homeschoolers are using Latin, even in elementary grades. There are a couple of excellent home school and/or self-teaching programs available now.
25 posted on 10/11/2002 11:51:52 AM PDT by RightField
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To: patton
Di! Ecce Hora! Uxor mea me necabet!

It's been awhile since I studied. Are you saying your wife is killing you?
26 posted on 10/11/2002 11:55:39 AM PDT by Welsh Rabbit
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To: Welsh Rabbit
One more thing ......

It's also fun to add some arithmetic problems into the mix when teaching Latin and Roman numerals. I did this with my homeschooled kids starting in 3rd grade. Have the child try to multiply using Roman numerals. A problem like 52 x 27 takes on a whole new aura when done in Roman numerals. Even something simple like 6 x 3 requires actual THINKING on the part of the youngsters.

27 posted on 10/11/2002 11:57:01 AM PDT by RightField
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To: Welsh Rabbit
G_D! Look at the time! My wife is going to kill me!
28 posted on 10/11/2002 11:59:35 AM PDT by patton
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To: RightField
Esse quam Videri

Quidquid nominator fabricator

Illigitimus non carborundum!

Mottos of various preFree Republic formative organizations to which I belonged

29 posted on 10/11/2002 11:59:40 AM PDT by bert
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To: RightField
Non Calora sed umor est qui nolis incommodat.
30 posted on 10/11/2002 12:00:47 PM PDT by patton
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To: Slyfox; Squantos; Travis McGee; harpseal; sneakypete
Enjoyed the phrases, however, one problem with the "Ave Maria" (Hail Mary) starting at Line V it should have read Sancta Maria, Mater Dei, ora pro nobis peccatoribus, nunc et in hora mortis nostrae. Amen

P.S. Thought I's show my classical Catholic side.
31 posted on 10/11/2002 12:10:44 PM PDT by TEXASPROUD
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
A couple years ago, I read in the newspaper that my high-school Latin teacher had gotten busted for stealing lobster traps (his summer job).

Good teacher, though. From the two years I took, I learned a lot about history, etymology, and a bunch of useful common phrases.

33 posted on 10/11/2002 12:18:59 PM PDT by Tancred
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To: N. Theknow
Graduated "skinnibus teethibus."

IOW, not "summa cum laude". Not "magna cum laude". Just "thank-you, Lawdy." ;-)

34 posted on 10/11/2002 12:25:10 PM PDT by Romulus
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
This is truly wonderful!

Unfortunately for me, I was never given the opportunity to study this beautiful language ("dead" my foot!), and have always maintained that my own children WILL take it, even if I have to teach them myself with the help of some kind of correspondence course.

Like many others here, my school only offered (yawn) Spanish or French, so I got stuck taking French for 8 years. Funny thing is, though...I use the little Latin I know FAR more often than the French.

Anyway, I'm glad to see this new trend emerging.

Gotta go! Tempus fugit!
Regards,
35 posted on 10/11/2002 12:31:01 PM PDT by VermiciousKnid
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Science uses Latin for everything from medical terminology

Good grief. Do you have to suffer conjugations and declensions to recognize medical terminology?

36 posted on 10/11/2002 12:54:01 PM PDT by cornelis
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To: N. Theknow
Veni, Vidi Victus Sum *

Nam Vet

*(I came, I saw I was conquered ... If memory serves)

37 posted on 10/11/2002 1:31:58 PM PDT by Nam Vet
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To: Welsh Rabbit
"Classics majors?"

John Cleese:
Clifton College, Bristol, England; concentrated on mathematics, physics, and chemistry
University of Cambridge, England (M.A., 1963) (Law)

Terry Jones:
Church of England primary school; Royal Grammar School at Guildford; St. Edmund Hall College, Oxford University (English)

Michael Palin:
Shrewsbury; Brasenose College, Oxford University (History)

Graham Chapman:
Emmanuel College, Cambridge (medicine); St. Bartholomew's Hospital, London (medicine)

Terry Gilliam:
Occidental College, studying Physics, which he later changed to Politics

Eric Idle:
Royal School, Wolverhampton; Pembroke College, Cambridge University (English)

This information is from: http://www.montypythonpages.com/index1.htm which I highly reccommend....all the details about everything.
38 posted on 10/11/2002 2:53:09 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: alancarp
That should be "videt", not "videtur"!
39 posted on 10/11/2002 2:55:37 PM PDT by Renfield
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To: Jakarta ex-pat
Come on! Now this is serious business. "Expelliarmus" would be rendered as "we disarm". ?? It should be more properly imperative, such as "Expelliarte" ("Disarm!!")
40 posted on 10/11/2002 3:02:34 PM PDT by Renfield
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