[cork]

$500 don't buy you much of a gun these days. My Benelli over and under 12 ga runs 1800

[js1138]

That's about the price of a good paintball gun.

[Stat-boy]

Same thing I was thinking. The scope alone could cost $500.

[El Gato]

$500 don't buy you much of a gun these days

Oh I don't know, I saw a .308/7.62NATO H&K G-3 (w/new semi auto receiver and internals) for $425 at the gun show last weekend. That's about $200 less than I paid for my virtually identical one a couple of years ago. Lot's of examples of it's predessor and near twin the CETME, for about the same. Those use standard 20rd mag, but 30 rd mags are available.