One other thing....The bullets being used which are(if what they said is true) are not available to the public. Those frag rounds are not from the local Walmart. Hunting rounds are designed to expand, but not to leave a few hundred chunks of shrapnel in the meat. These rounds are meant to go into soft tissue and explode. There are only a few sources for those kind of rounds. BTW, I heard earlier that the caliber being used is the NATO issue.