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Willingly at the barrel of a gun? That's some awful good ganja you've got there. Go grab a dictionary when you come back down and tell me what the word "willingly" means. If you had read the entire story before shooting your wad you'd have realized that they were led out ostensibly to be robbed, which is not all that uncommon. All you're doing is blaming the victims. It's boorish, simplistic, condescending and just plain wrong. Go fling your feces somewhere else. By the way, I'd bet my bottom dollar you'd fare no better in this situation, your blusterish self-aggrandizement notwithstanding

For your information, I have been closely following this story for 2 years now, I did not just learn about it like you did.

You are the one talking about "blaming the victims", I never mentioned any such words.

Each one of us makes a decision on how to live, and whether or not we will ever protect ourselves if and when these kinds of situations come up. Those that willingly and freely choose to decide to not defend themselves, who choose to not own or carry a gun, do so deliberately.

To say that at the very last minute of your life, just after you were forced to commit sodomy and just before you were about to be murdered, you wish you had a gun, and that you now would like the opportunity to stop what is about to be done to you, is foolish, stupid, and pitiful. To live in a world populated by these types of criminals, to live in a world full of Ted Bundys and to consiously and deliberately take no measures at all to prevent the same kind of thing from happening to you, is your choice, but dont come crying to me.

You are free to decide to not defend yourself, but dont complain when I dont sit and whine with you about the terrible things that bad people do to others.

Grow up, and live with YOUR the personal life decisions that YOU make.

If you dont want to carry insurance, if you dont save money, if you dont keep a loaded gun handy, if you dont wear your seatbelt, that is up to you, but quit trying to cry on my shoulder and get my sympathy for YOUR poor and stupid decisions.

You yourself have to take responsiblity for yourself and for the defense of yourself,or accept whatever happens to you without crying to others for sympathy, and pity because you were so defenseless and could not do anything to stop it. You were too terrified and afraid to rush these murderers and have a fighting chance to live.

I got news for you, there are more bad people out there, and these kinds of things will happen again, and they may happen to you, they will happen to someone. If you continue to live defenseless, go ahead, but dont plead for us to cry with you.

You just lost your last dollar, I carry a gun, and also keep them handy in my home. I believe I would fare quite well. My kinds of people would not be taken to a deserted park to be sodomized. We would fight. My kinds of people shoot those kinds of scum.

You truely live in a fairy tale land if you think these evil criminals were going to be "nicer" to the vicitms once they got them in a deserted isolated place. Anybody else that agrees with you, remains unarmed, and goes with people like these murderers to be sodomized, should not expect to be treated any better than these young people were.

Water is on point. I am revolted by this crime, but am appalled that the people did not fight when it became apparent they were not just being robbed. In all honesty, I would not have even withdrawn money from the ATM, because while you refuse to, you have something on the criminal.

Even ICE CUBE, of all people, pointed out the danger of going along with people who are robbing you. You want my money, get the jump on me, and take it on the street. If you loiter, I know you're going to kill, possibly torture me and mine. I will not let that happen without a fight.

I've been in dangerous situations before, and you know what? My pulse has stayed relatively even, I was able to head off the trouble or evade it. I am confident that if my life is on the line I will put holes in the animals or at least claw his eyes out.

I care deeply for my girlfriend. I would rather die than see these types of criminals degrade or hurt her, and my rage would probably carry the day. I've been talking to her a lot about being aware of her surroundings and carrying at least a stun gun so she can guard her safety and dignity. She also would fight when it became apparent she had no choice.

Contrast that with the man who let his fiance be raped and humiliated and ultimately shot. For what? Why would you lay down or get on your knees, knowing you would die?!!!

For your information, I have been closely following this story for 2 years now, I did not just learn about it like you did.

For your information, I'm from Wichita. Go ahead and take that foot out of your mouth now.

You are the one talking about "blaming the victims", I never mentioned any such words.

You are condemning them for somehow letting themselves be violated. If that's not blaming the victim then what exactly is it?

The rest of your post is just hot air. I'll let you continue to pat yourself on your back as long as it makes you feel good.

If you are at all interested, what you are doing is known as "downward social comparason." You have chosen a group, criticized them and thereby boosted your own ego in the process. Your outspokenness about how "stupid" these victims are and how you would kill anyone who tried to make you do this thirty times over is merely ego-boosting. It speaks volumes on how low your self-image is, but that's the extent of the relevance of your comments.