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To: waterstraat; Conagher
Water is on point. I am revolted by this crime, but am appalled that the people did not fight when it became apparent they were not just being robbed. In all honesty, I would not have even withdrawn money from the ATM, because while you refuse to, you have something on the criminal.

Even ICE CUBE, of all people, pointed out the danger of going along with people who are robbing you. You want my money, get the jump on me, and take it on the street. If you loiter, I know you're going to kill, possibly torture me and mine. I will not let that happen without a fight.

I've been in dangerous situations before, and you know what? My pulse has stayed relatively even, I was able to head off the trouble or evade it. I am confident that if my life is on the line I will put holes in the animals or at least claw his eyes out.

I care deeply for my girlfriend. I would rather die than see these types of criminals degrade or hurt her, and my rage would probably carry the day. I've been talking to her a lot about being aware of her surroundings and carrying at least a stun gun so she can guard her safety and dignity. She also would fight when it became apparent she had no choice.

Contrast that with the man who let his fiance be raped and humiliated and ultimately shot. For what? Why would you lay down or get on your knees, knowing you would die?!!!
117 posted on 10/10/2002 7:55:30 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: Skywalk
A bump for all the victims, and a prayer for all their survivors. For them, the nightmare will never go away.
118 posted on 10/10/2002 8:01:12 PM PDT by Palladin
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To: Skywalk
Your point is well taken about the failure (or paralyzing fear) of the victims, especially the men. Please keep in mind that these were all white kids in their 20s who have been indoctrinated from the time of kindergarten about how blacks have been opressed and how THEY are somehow guilty simply because they happened to be white. This propaganda has been going on in government schools for decades now. The victims probably all believed in the PC-Multicultural dream, in St. Martin Luther King, etc., etc. There is a deliberate campaign to destroy any sense of culture and nationhood among whites in the entire western world. One of the core beliefs of this doctrine is that whites are the only ones capable of racism. Of course, wealthy elite white leftists are the main source of this poison (which ultimately poisons ALL races, BTW), since they see the main threat to continued hegemony as coming from the white middle class (the bourgeoise).
130 posted on 10/11/2002 12:12:37 AM PDT by Bogolyubski
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