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To: PleaseNoMore
The modern idea of what Jesus looked like when he walked the earth began with the great German painter Albrecht Drurer (or Durer). He painted a picture of Christ and, since no one knew what Jesus looked like, decided to use his own face. Here is his self portrait:



112 posted on 10/11/2002 6:38:49 AM PDT by Skooz
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To: Skooz
Fascinating.
128 posted on 10/11/2002 10:50:25 AM PDT by Justa
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To: Skooz
Well, traditional depictions of Jesus with relatively consistent features go back at least 1450 years. See Eastern icons, like the one of Christ Pantocrator from St. Catherine's Monastery, dated to A.D. 550:

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129 posted on 10/11/2002 11:07:45 AM PDT by Bohemund
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To: Skooz
The modern idea of what Jesus looked like when he walked the earth began with the great German painter Albrecht Drurer (or Durer). He painted a picture of Christ and, since no one knew what Jesus looked like, decided to use his own face. Here is his self portrait:

Sorry, but that is not correct. The modern concept of the image of Christ actually started about the 5th Century with the Christ Pantocrater, a mosaic found in Turkey. The study of iconography has a lot to say on the appearance of Christ throughtout the ages... Durer was latecomer.

143 posted on 10/11/2002 7:02:43 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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The portrait of Albrecht Durer you posted is his Self Portrait at age 28 painted in 1498. It is of himself and art historians note that it appears somewhat stylized as Christ. However, analysis of this painting shows that Durer used the Shroud of Turin as his starting point. Several indications are present. The tufts of hair at the part are found in many early icons of Christ... and are representations of the blood stains in the same location on the Shroud.

Portrait of Myself at Age 28
Albrecht Durer (1498)

The shroud was quite well known by the time of Durer's career and many painters were already using it as the source of the inspiration for the appearance of Christ. Durer shows some knowledge of the Shroud as a single piece of cloth in his painting the Lamentation for Christ. Joseph of Aramathea is portraid holding onto the foot of the Shroud and the top of the Shroud is draped across Jesus' loins for modesty. In addition, his knowledge of the Shroud is also shown by Mary placing her finger in the wound IN THE WRIST, which was contrary to contemporary iconography. Durer was, however, a stickler for detail and he noticed this. Note also the supine Christ has the wisp like structures on his forehead.

Lamentation for Christ
Albrecht Durer (1503)

I searched the Internet and Durer biographies and nowhere did I find an attribution to Durer of the modern appearance of Christ's image. In fact, Durer himself only admitted to ONE deliberate usage of his own face is in a portrait he cakked "Christ the Man of Sorrows".

Christ as the Man of Sorrows
Albrecht Durer

This painting is hardly our modern idea of the appearance of Jesus Christ.

172 posted on 10/11/2002 9:25:08 PM PDT by Swordmaker
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