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To: Chemist_Geek
RE: Post #55---good points, however on your comment:

"I have no objection to a search of my home or wire tap on my phone, IF THEY HAVE A COURT ISSUED WARRANT.

I think the Patriot Act pretty much wiped that out. I believe LE can now search and seize without a warrent. If anyone knows otherwise, please post.

237 posted on 10/08/2002 7:33:23 AM PDT by two23
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To: two23
I think the Patriot Act pretty much wiped that out. I believe LE can now search and seize without a warrent. If anyone knows otherwise, please post.

I think so, in terrorism-related investigations. However, the first time they try to use any evidence so taken expect a long chain of appeals.

260 posted on 10/08/2002 7:45:32 AM PDT by Chemist_Geek
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To: two23
Patriot Act did not wipe out the need for a warrant, issued by a judge, upon presentation of an affidavit setting forth probable cause.

It does allow search of unoccupied premises without presentation of a warrant, upon a showing that this is necessary for law enforcement purposes, but the cops still need the warrant.
264 posted on 10/08/2002 7:47:35 AM PDT by CobaltBlue
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To: two23
I think the Patriot Act pretty much wiped that out. I believe LE can now search and seize without a warrent. If anyone knows otherwise, please post.

(sigh), Please have at least a passing knowledge of facts before you post. The Patriot act lowers the bar for getting a warrant, but, for ANY search and/or seizure, a warrant is required. Therre are a few nit points but by and large it is not Carte Blanche. Please go to the DoJ website and download "Searching and Seizing Computers and obtaining evidence in Criminal Investigatins". This is the document that gives the procedures for ANY property siezures under the Patriot act.

Semper Education

364 posted on 10/08/2002 8:45:49 AM PDT by Trident/Delta
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