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Fox News says Supreme Court Allows Lautenberg!

Posted on 10/07/2002 10:53:40 AM PDT by Howlin

It's done!


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; Government
KEYWORDS: benny; corpse; election; forrester; gulla; lautenberg; nj; oldfart; oldman; senate
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To: isthisnickcool
That few number of people are controlling this country.
101 posted on 10/07/2002 11:10:52 AM PDT by Howlin
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To: mware
ping!
102 posted on 10/07/2002 11:10:52 AM PDT by Dog
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To: Howlin
Forrester should file a lawsuit against the state of Joisey, the DNC, Lautengerg, Torch, et al...

Oops, can't do that because the NJSC has been bought off by the RATS and the mafia.

What a sad say for NJ and America.


103 posted on 10/07/2002 11:10:55 AM PDT by unixfox
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To: WatchOutForSnakes
Well then someone out there voted for a RINO governor. We see blanket calls here on FR to vote republican. This is what we get.
104 posted on 10/07/2002 11:11:15 AM PDT by cynicom
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To: txjeep
Pandora's Box is officially open for business.

The beginning of the pandamonium.

105 posted on 10/07/2002 11:11:27 AM PDT by VRW Conspirator
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To: KsSunflower
I don't agree with that. How many people in this country have been to court and felt like they got screwed?? By divorce, or traffic ticket, or whatever. This guy should be able to really run with this thing now. This issue can resonate.
106 posted on 10/07/2002 11:11:32 AM PDT by kjam22
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To: cynicom
Cristie Todd Whitman was the Republican who picked 4 of NJ's Justices and she is nothing but a worthless RINO!
107 posted on 10/07/2002 11:11:43 AM PDT by ohioman
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To: shetlan
Can't deny voters right to vote

Well - they just did. They denied the absentee ballot voters the right for this vote to count. Unless they allow them to revote - they have disenfranchised voters.

108 posted on 10/07/2002 11:11:57 AM PDT by ClancyJ
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To: Howlin
High Court Won't Take N.J. Sen. Case
Mon Oct 7, 2:04 PM ET

By ANNE GEARAN, Associated Press Writer

WASHINGTON (AP) - The Supreme Court refused Monday to be drawn into an election fight that resurrected memories of the court's contentious intervention in the presidential election two years ago.

Democrats may now go ahead with plans to replace Sen. Robert Torricelli (news, bio, voting record) with former Sen. Frank Lautenberg on the Nov. 5 ballot in their effort to retain their one-seat hold on the Senate.

New Jersey Republicans had called the switch a political ploy intended to dump a candidate who seemed sure to lose in favor of a potential winner. They asked the Supreme Court to stop the Democrats, arguing that the candidate swap came too close to Election Day.

The high court did not explain its reasons for rejecting the GOP appeal.

Word from the high court came on the first day of the new Supreme Court term, and a week after Torricelli bowed out of his re-election race.

Torricelli said he would step aside after polls showed him losing ground to Republican challenger Douglas Forrester who had made Torricelli's ethics problems the focus of his campaign.

The Democrats quickly chose Lautenberg as a replacement, and the Republicans went to court.

New Jersey's highest court unanimously approved the candidate switch, a decision that Forrester's lawyers had said "opens the doors of American elections to considerable mischief."

The Republicans appealed to the high court last Thursday, arguing that the candidate swap was both illegal and unconstitutional. State law prevents such an 11th hour switch, and it could strip voting rights from absentee and overseas voters, the GOP argued.

About 1,700 absentee and overseas military ballots have already been mailed with Torricelli's name on them.

If the state ruling stood, "political parties will be encouraged to withdraw losing candidates on the eve of election, replacing them with candidates who have not gone through the rigors of the nomination process in hopes of snatching victory from the jaws of defeat," Republicans argued to the justices in a court filing last Thursday.

There was plenty of time to reprint ballots, Democrats assured the Supreme Court in paperwork filed Friday.

"It may be that Forrester believes he will be politically hurt by the New Jersey Supreme Court's judgment and is simply unwilling to say so," Democrats wrote.

As in the 2000 election fight, Republicans contested a ruling from a majority-Democrat state court.

The Supreme Court surprised both sides by jumping into the fight two years ago, ending ballot recounts in Florida by a bitter 5-4 vote. Democrat Al Gore (news - web sites) had sought the recounts in hopes of erasing George W. Bush's tiny lead.

New Jersey Republicans are also pursuing a separate challenge in federal court in Trenton on behalf of two people the party contends could lose their votes.

The Supreme Court case is 02-A-289.

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http://news.yahoo.com/news?tmpl=story2&cid=514&ncid=514&e=3&u=/ap/20021007/ap_on_el_se/new_jersey_senate


109 posted on 10/07/2002 11:11:58 AM PDT by deport
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To: Inspectorette
" This may be a blessing in disguise. Lautenberg is going to prove to be a lousy candidate"

You are absolutely correct. On some level, I think the Dems secretly hoped to have the SCOTUS take the case, so they could demagogue it. Lautenberg behaves as if he is on a pass from an Alzheimer's unit-he spouts platitudes,but, doesn't "say" anything cogent.If you have an Alzheimer patient in your family, you know how in the early stages, their mind has stored a series of familiar phrases, that they repeat endlessly. The Dems have to be seriously worried about how Lautenberg will behave in a debate.If his performance on the night he accepted the coronation,was any indication,they have to be very,very worried.Watch them try to shield Lautenberg from any public and unscripted performances.He's "Week End at Bernie's ", writ large.
110 posted on 10/07/2002 11:12:03 AM PDT by Wild Irish Rogue
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To: Dog
I am a NJ voter and I will crawl to the polls if I have to on election day!!!!!

Plead with family members and friends who usually don't vote to go with you.

111 posted on 10/07/2002 11:12:09 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: kjam22
I tend to agree with you. Forrester is not the empty suit everyone has him chalked up to be--his less than steller appearance on Fox yesterday not withstanding. He is a typical "Big Tent" New Jersey republican that gets elected all the time in these parts--e.g. Whitman, Kean, Freylinghausen. I wish he were more socially conservative, but look what happened to Schundler last year. The focus on the courts over the next 4 weeks would make to much noise for Forrester to get the word out and may have awakened the Demoncrat base which I think is really sleeping right now.

At the worst thing that Forrester can do now is to allow the Demoncrats to define him. If he plays the victim card to the exclusion of an agressive campaign to present himself to the New Jersey voters on his terms he risks allowing the Demoncrats to define him.
112 posted on 10/07/2002 11:12:29 AM PDT by sonrise57
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To: sam_paine
EVERYBODY WINS!! This is a victory for State's Rights, you know.

Thank you. This issue was not one for the SCOTUS. As much as I dislike the fact that Lautenburg may win in NJ, what the NJ SC decided was the final decision. Are we to expect the national government to step into every internal state issue because we disagree with the decision? That being said, I sure hope Forrester wins

113 posted on 10/07/2002 11:12:43 AM PDT by billbears
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To: Howlin; Dog
What's most interesting and telling is that ABC thought this issue IMPORTANT enough to scroll across their screen YET airing the President's address to the nation doesn't rank as IMPORTANT. Seems whenever X42 farted, it was reported on ABCCBSNBC.
114 posted on 10/07/2002 11:13:00 AM PDT by StarFan
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To: jpl
I'm pretty close to believing that we're really not even a Democracy any more.

We never were a democracy.

115 posted on 10/07/2002 11:13:22 AM PDT by cinFLA
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To: unixfox
ABOLISH THE SCOTUS !!

Looks like the Democrats beat you to it...

116 posted on 10/07/2002 11:13:24 AM PDT by Senator_Blutarski
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To: cynicom
"Four of the NJ judges were appointed by a republican.

Republican. You mean Crispy Todd Whitman. She's a disgrace to the name Republican. She's a RINO. Her appointments are Dims in Pubbie labels.

117 posted on 10/07/2002 11:15:19 AM PDT by holyscroller
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To: Wild Irish Rogue
Watch them try to shield Lautenberg from any public and unscripted performances

He publically agreed to 21 debates. Push to get him out there!

118 posted on 10/07/2002 11:15:29 AM PDT by concerned about politics
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To: HamiltonJay
What this reinforces is that our Representative Republic is over, and the rule of law means nothing, which means we are now a Democracy and Mob Rule is the law of the day, which means we as a nation are not long for this earth.

Which is why, if you'll fully read my post, that I said "welcome to the creaky wheels of democracy."

The Republic was finished off in 1863. Nobody is mad that The Imperial Federal government forces State Legislatures to pass certain laws in exchange for highway money. NO! Everybody suddenly gets upset when a Senate Election gets messed with. Big deal.

SCOTUS is not the last resort. The people (mob) still is. The mob got a Republic in 1787, if they want another one, they can have it back by voting for it. Till then, bitch about it all, or whine about nothing.

119 posted on 10/07/2002 11:15:35 AM PDT by sam_paine
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To: sonrise57
Yep... the last thing Forrester needed was to give traction to the democrats by having the feds step in to state politics. This guy should clean house now. Combine his policy, his message with a message that the other side has cheated and I got screwed by the good ole boy politics here in New Jersey.

Having the dems plan backfire in their face is better than having a court overrule them and give them traction.

120 posted on 10/07/2002 11:16:03 AM PDT by kjam22
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