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1 posted on 10/07/2002 12:53:44 AM PDT by kattracks
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To: kattracks
It's hard to believe something like this could get less coverage than the Jesse Dirkhising case but that's the way it appears
2 posted on 10/07/2002 1:02:56 AM PDT by Texas_Jarhead
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To: kattracks
I'm sure jj and/or fat al are booking reservations to Wichita as I type. Of course they want justice for the victims.
3 posted on 10/07/2002 1:04:15 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: kattracks
This story should convince any fence sitters to arm themselves. Heavily. And eliminate any hesitation about terminating with extreme prejudice.
5 posted on 10/07/2002 1:12:53 AM PDT by KantianBurke
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To: MrMuse; tinacart
Look what's back...

Think anyone will remember who these people worked for and what was going on at the time? Think anyone will still care?

6 posted on 10/07/2002 1:16:36 AM PDT by Lion's Cub
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To: kattracks
Surprised by major network coverage I shoud say. The press is a prevaricator of facts. It makes its own news and is very creative just like polls.This countrys media is a machine set in place with an agenda.They manipulate facts to get their desired results.It is nothing more than a tool that liberals use to brainwash and hide the truth from the average American.As long as they can sell their garbage they will continue.I refuse to watch or read directly from "The Mainstream Media" product.
8 posted on 10/07/2002 1:22:03 AM PDT by gunnedah
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To: ALS; crypto; Flint Hills; mjaneangels@aolcom; MTCJK; stanleypie; ZOOKER
I hope one of you folks from fly-over country can keep us updated on this trial. That is, if the perps aren't lynched first.
10 posted on 10/07/2002 1:46:16 AM PDT by leadpenny
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To: kattracks
I read where Court TV didn't think this was a good trial for National Exposure. If the roles were reversed would Court TV be carrying this trial?


12 posted on 10/07/2002 2:32:14 AM PDT by Oak
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To: kattracks
http://www.cjonline.com/stories/100602/kan_carr.shtml

Gruesome photos admissible, judge rules

Carrs: Arguments get under way Monday in multiple murder trial
10/5/2002
By Roxana Hegeman - The Associated Press

WICHITA -- A judge ruled Friday that jurors can see gruesome crime scene and autopsy photos in the multiple murder trial of Jonathan and Reginald Carr. The brothers stood quietly behind their attorneys and looked intently at the evidence, presented Friday by prosecutors to defense attorneys and Sedgwick County District Judge Paul Clark.

The hearing was designed to give defense attorneys a chance to object.

The judge gave an hour apiece to the prosecution and each brother's defense team to present their opening arguments Monday. He told them jurors will also be allowed to take notes during the trial.

Ron Evans, attorney for 22-year-old Jonathan Carr, objected to the introduction of many crime scene and autopsy photos, saying they were gruesome. John Val Wachtel, attorney for 24-year-old Reginald Carr, joined in the objections.

The defense attorneys also wanted to exclude photos of their clients being taken into jail and what they called prejudicial photos showing the victims while they were alive. They also objected to including a photo of a dog killed the night of the attacks.

The Carrs are facing a combined 113 counts -- including capital murder, kidnapping, robbery, burglary, rape and criminal sodomy, among other crimes. Both brothers face the same 55 charges. In addition, Reginald faces three additional charges related to being a convicted felon in possession of a firearm.

Prosecutors say the crime spree began Dec. 7 when the Carrs abducted a man from a convenience store and robbed him. On Dec. 11, they are charged with repeatedly shooting 55-year-old Ann Walenta in a robbery outside her home. She later died.

The night of Dec. 14, prosecutors contend, the Carrs entered a Wichita home and abducted the five people they found inside, robbed them, forced them to perform sex on each other and raped two women before shooting them all execution-style in a soccer field early the next morning.

Four of them died, but one woman survived. In her dramatic testimony during a preliminary hearing last year, the lone survivor identified Jonathan Carr as one of their attackers but was unable to identify the other attacker.

The victim of an earlier armed robbery identified Reginald Carr as one of the two men who had robbed him days earlier. The man testified during last year's preliminary hearing that he recognized Carr after seeing a televised story about Carr's arrest for the quadruple homicides.

Prosecutors are expected to present DNA evidence, among other things, to tie the brothers to the crimes.

Defense attorneys have questioned the validity of that DNA evidence in earlier hearings.


16 posted on 10/07/2002 4:06:45 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: TroutStalker; alfa6; kcpopps; I. Ben Hurt; ozzymandus; amigatec

"Wichita Horror" Posts:

Killing Suspect Just Out of Jail - 01/01/2001
Scott McConnell: "Unfit to Print" - 01/10/2001
THE WICHITA HORROR - 01/13/2001
DA, Public Interest Clash Over Records (Wichita multiple murder) - 01/13/2001
Court seals case files in Wichita quadruple homicides - 01/14/2001
Lawyer asks to close pretrial proceedings (Update on The Wichita Horror) - 01/17/2001
Lawyers brawl over records (Wichita Horror/Quadruple Homicide) - 01/27/2001
BLOODY KANSAS: HATE CRIMES IN WICHITA? - 02/12/2001
Hate Crimes: A One-Way Street? - 03/05/2001
Carrs (Wichita Horror) to have joint preliminary hearing - 04/14/2001
The Wichita Massacre - 07/16/2002
BLACK RACISM: THE HATE CRIME THAT DARE NOT SPEAK ITS NAME - 07/16/2002
'Wichita Horror' trial to begin - 09/09/2002
Court TV to air 'Wichita horror' - 09/18/2002
Wichita Massacre Trial Media Blackout - 09/27/2002


Jonathan (left) and Reginald Carr


Four of the victims (clockwise from top left):
Jason Befort, Heather Muller, Aaron Sander, Bradley Heyka


The fifth murder victim: Linda Walenta

Matt Drudge said on his radio show last night that he will be posting links to any story he can find that relates to this trial.

I would like to start a "Ping List" for this trial. Anybody interested in following the "Wichita Horror" proceedings who wants on the list, please let me know.

17 posted on 10/07/2002 4:10:17 AM PDT by KS Flyover
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To: kattracks
"I hate to see young black men go through this," the man said during jury selection. But Sedgwick County Judge Paul Clark refused to dismiss him, citing the U.S. Supreme Court precedent in Batson vs. Kentucky, which bars courts from striking black jurors on the assumption that they would favor black defendants.

That's frigging outrageoues! The guy practically admitted his bias, it wasn't an assumption!

There better not be any OJ let-them-go because-they're-black crap on this one, no way!

30 posted on 10/07/2002 7:56:22 AM PDT by republicman
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To: kattracks
BTTT
47 posted on 10/07/2002 5:02:29 PM PDT by 4.1O dana super trac pak
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To: kattracks
I listened to the testimony of the lone survivor today. You could tell that she was strictly controlled by the DA. She never really told "her story". She only answered questions, adding very little on her own. One thing that really ticked me, was when she was asked if there was "any namecalling". She wasn't asked if there were any racial slurs. The survivor said that she was called "shorty". That was all she said, and the DA did not ask the next obvious question, "Was anyone else called a name?". The DA has been on a campiagn since this event began to avoid anything racial about this crime. Yet all the people shot were white. All the people raped were white. At one point she was asked by one of the rapist/murderers how she liked being screwed by a black man and if it was better than her boyfriend.
Until the blacks pay the same penalty for purposely and racially attacking whites, they will be all the more emboldened to make sure their crimes are as horrific as possible. Afterall, there's no extra penalty for doing such.

Both these bastards will get death.

amen
62 posted on 10/08/2002 4:39:22 PM PDT by ALS
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To: kattracks

Why are these scumbags *still* polluting our air??


68 posted on 04/21/2022 7:46:53 PM PDT by CherCee (Frankly, My Dear, I Don't Give A Damn)
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