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To: whattajoke
Man evolutionists never cease to amaze me, They can ignore simple fact like I walk, in fear of fact. The placement of gold example is empirical evidence of the flood. The gold is there, no other way can it be distributed that way. If it was erosion the gold would only be found in streaks leading to the original vein. That is NOT the way placer gold is distributed. Simple geology that proves there was a flood, in direct refutation of the thesis of the author. I chose it because it was "original research" that I knew of by the "creationists who never research". I also used my examples because they were first person and impossible for you to refute with some other third person perspective, an argument method that boils down to faith. Faith in which books you base your belief in.

Get angry, question authority. How many dimensions of math does it take for gravity to work? Is time a constant? For the big bang to start everything, how much mass is critical and how did it get there? A moon can remain in equilibrium for millions of years with random bombardment by asteroids? It does not take a PHD to realize silly science.

Give me a break... If randomness is designing creation, show me the random errors. There should be about a billion false starts for every random correct design. Find a couple. I can point to a billion bugs, where are the ugs or the bu's or the BS's? A fly has more design than a race car, lets see you take one apart, put it together and start it up...

You guys have to have a whole lot more faith than any Christian I have ever seen.

But of course you will take your life for granted, and take your useless tail (which I will donate to have removed for you if you think it is so useless) and drive your car on compressed dinosaur grease, to some PhD who will stuff you full of anti-biotic for your cancer and wonder why you waste away and die. (cancer is randomness, entropy, you know the second LAW of thermodynamics that refutes evolution) Ignore the poor foolish Christian who is walking next to you with a smile and joy. After all Joy and peace are not necessary for evolution.

Now you can ridicule me all you wish, but I walk, and geological science proves creation far better than I ever could. But ignore and ridicule all you wish, for there is a creation and a CREATOR. Think on that, and cower behind your textbooks written by the priests of your faith. Just for the sake of your “head in the sand defense”, never, never wander into nature yourself or for hells sake look up from your books. It tends to be unsettling of all that you have read. ROTFLMAO

410 posted on 10/08/2002 10:31:01 PM PDT by American in Israel
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To: American in Israel
AiI, a fascinating pattern is developing here. Your personal evidence from gold prospecting is interesting, although I have several questions about that. You also have a significant personal medical recovery after a child prayed for you. Fine. Those are probably significant events for you, but I suspect you're throwing out a lot of contrary facts in your rush to assign significance to them.

But that's fine. What totally blows your general credibility with me is how you throw in all these other patently false and easily refuted canards into the mix: Frog DNA being closer to human than is chimp DNA. Cancer caused by the 2nd Law of Thermodynamics, which by the way refutes evolution. Doctors prescribe antibiotics for cancer. I suspect that these statements are there to rationally support your conviction that supernatural intervention exists.

I'm psychologizing, I know. I probably shouldn't do that. Instead I should methodically discuss your DNA/cancer/2LoT claims one by one and hope that you'll see why they're false. But I really do suspect that they're there only for their assistance in rationalizing your belief in the supernatural.

OK, a couple questions re the gold: I have never prospected, though I've read a little about it and I've always thought it'd be a gas to try.

  1. I assume you know that the Placerita area was already mined of placer gold in the 1840's. What makes you think the 2 canyons you found had not already been gone over back then? IOW, can you tell how old a placer deposit is just by looking at it? How do you know the deposits in those 2 canyons weren't actually laid down after the 1840's?
  2. How old were the layers the gold was deposited into? I know you can't date sedimentary deposits directly, but what do mainstream, godless, hurtlin-down-the-road-to-perdition geologists say about when the placer deposits were laid down?
  3. When you say, in #299, "a high concentration on the upward side of the entire canyon walls and NOTHING on the down ward side", what do you mean by "upward side" and "downward side"?
  4. Do you have any training in geology or hydrodynamics? I.e. what background knowledge leads you to conclude that a 3500' high flood is a good explanation for the deposits? (i.e. is it something more than the feeling that "it looks like a sluicebox"?)

As for your leg...

  1. How much shorter was your shorter leg?
  2. How long was it from the last measurement (say, by an MD) that showed the original difference in length, to the first measurement that verified that they were the same length? IOW how long did it take for the shorter one to grow? The reason I ask for time between measurements is, I just recently bought reading glasses for the first time, and I thought my reading problems came at me suddenly, like over 6 months. Yet when I use the glasses I can see the kind of details of close-up things that I could only see when I was a girl. In retrospect, I suspect that my near-eyesight had been deteriorating so slowly over the years that I just never noticed it.
  3. Have you ever done any kind of exercises/therapy on your shorter leg to lengthen it? Were you doing it at the time it got longer?
  4. Had other people prayed for your leg to get longer at other times, when your leg stayed short?
  5. What exactly did your MD say was making your leg shorter? Were your bones shorter, or did you have shorter tendons or muscles, or what?
  6. Was this a congenital defect or did it show up later in life?

415 posted on 10/08/2002 11:49:07 PM PDT by jennyp
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