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Professor Rigid on Evolution (must "believe" to get med school rec)
The Lubbock Avalanche Journal ^ | 10/6/02 | Sebastian Kitchen

Posted on 10/06/2002 8:16:21 AM PDT by hispanarepublicana

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To: tjg
None of it science though. Which is sort of the point

Wrong. Wrong. Wrong. Check your facts. Do a google search on 'scientific evidence against evolution' and see how much information you can find. Do another google search on 'scientific evidence supporting creation' and see how much information you find.

The problem is, the majority of people who believe the fiction of evolution tend to come from the liberal right. And everyone knows that you can lead a liberal to knowledge, but you can't make them think.

461 posted on 10/09/2002 10:33:23 AM PDT by JavaTheHutt
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To: Condorman
Cute, but not an answer.

It most certainly is an answer. You may not like it.

462 posted on 10/09/2002 10:33:44 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Condorman
Once again you attribute positions to me that are not mine.

The logic was yours.

463 posted on 10/09/2002 10:37:55 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
It most certainly is an answer. You may not like it.

Ahh... excellent! So everything without that tag can be assumed to be naturally occuring. I'm certain that paleontologists and anthropologists around the world are agog to learn this.

By all means post a link and ping me when you publish your discovery.

464 posted on 10/09/2002 10:39:42 AM PDT by Condorman
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To: AndrewC
The logic was yours.

The application was not. I do not know if arrowheads and SETI signals are analogous.

465 posted on 10/09/2002 10:41:35 AM PDT by Condorman
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To: Condorman
Ahh... excellent! So everything without that tag can be assumed to be naturally occuring. I'm certain that paleontologists and anthropologists around the world are agog to learn this.

Your logic again. It is sufficient, but not necessary.

466 posted on 10/09/2002 10:42:19 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: Condorman
The application was not. I do not know if arrowheads and SETI signals are analogous.

If you consider your statements as immune to logic, so be it.

467 posted on 10/09/2002 10:43:28 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: AndrewC
My logic? You keep using that word. I do not think it means what you think it means.

Could you could map out how you got from here to there using my logic?

468 posted on 10/09/2002 10:45:23 AM PDT by Condorman
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To: Rytwyng
But a single mutation (or even more mutations) usually doesn't make an organism to cease functioning. Therefore small changes can accumulate over large time spans. And you also have to take into consideration that there are many replicators mutating at the same time, so the probability for a beneficial mutation occuring in one of these organisms isn't that low.
Further, what you describe as "sudden appearance" can be quite a long time compared to the lifetime of a human.
469 posted on 10/09/2002 10:45:50 AM PDT by BMCDA
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To: PatrickHenry
Thanks for the link to Junior's Creation vs. Evolution Resource. I'll be busy for several months going through this massive archive!
470 posted on 10/09/2002 10:46:12 AM PDT by JavaTheHutt
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To: Condorman
Could you could map out how you got from here to there using my logic?

That is my point. Using your logic, I can't.

471 posted on 10/09/2002 10:46:53 AM PDT by AndrewC
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To: hispanarepublicana
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472 posted on 10/09/2002 10:47:19 AM PDT by Rec-O-mend-me
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To: tjg
"a large amount of literature exists against the theory."

None of it science though. Which is sort of the point.

Since there are numerous scientists who dispute evolution theory, you obviously have no familiarity with any of the anti-evolution arguments. You remind me of a poster a few weeks back who asserted that evolutionists employed the scientific method in their analysis of fossils, which they don't. Turned out he didn't even know what the scientific method was.

473 posted on 10/09/2002 10:53:33 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: Dimensio
LOL! That explains it. The young ones tell me I'm not "in the know" because I don't watch SNL very often. This is proof positive. Duh...
474 posted on 10/09/2002 11:06:04 AM PDT by Alamo-Girl
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To: PatrickHenry
Yes. If you were a math teacher, would you recommend someone for further math studies if he didn't truly believe that 2+2 = 4?

These kinds of arguments by evolutionists, like suggesting the degree of certainty in abstract reasoning and evolution are comparable does not indicate real confidence in evolution, but deep down a realization that it's BS. It's an attempt to dismiss creationism with a wave of the hand. The fact is there are all sorts of theories in the physical sciences which have been verified by controlled experiments, which evolution certainly has not, and if a student declared he didn't believe some of them it would not cause him to be considered unqualified to advance his studies. To say that someone is unqualified to study medicine because he doesn't believe a theory which has no application whatsover in medicine or anything else for that matter indicates a desire to stamp out or punish belief in creationism and hence make it go away. It's indicative of deep fear on the part of evos.

475 posted on 10/09/2002 11:11:08 AM PDT by lasereye
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To: Kevin Curry
There is much science, especially statistical/mathematic, against it.

Nonsense

"Negative entropy" (not thermodynamic, but Shannon-informational) is a physical miracle beyond their skills to even begin to explain in any way, shape, or fashion.

That statistical and thermodynamic entropy are one and the same was shown 100 years ago.

You are insufficiently intelligent to know the grave flaws of your own materialist absolutist faith. Or, you lack sufficient understanding. Or both.

So what year was your Nobel prize awarded?

476 posted on 10/09/2002 11:15:11 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: Right Wing Professor
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477 posted on 10/09/2002 11:18:54 AM PDT by f.Christian
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To: PatrickHenry
Yes. If you were a math teacher, would you recommend someone for further math studies if he didn't truly believe that 2+2 = 4?

Well... I'm not sure how much real science a physician needs to know. So much medical training is rote memorization, and contrary to how it's portrayed on TV, anyone who tried to be really creative in modern medicine would be awash in malpractice suits. My brother the MD swears that most of his training involved discouraging him from too much independent thought.

I do write letters of recommendation for medical school. I'm generally not aware of students' views on evolution; the subject comes up only infrequently in my teaching. But if I were aware an otherwise talented student had creationist views, I think I'd be obliged to mention it in the letter, and let the admissions committee make up its own mind.

478 posted on 10/09/2002 11:26:37 AM PDT by Right Wing Professor
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To: JavaTheHutt; Junior
Thanks for the link to Junior's Creation vs. Evolution Resource.

Thank Junior for creating that archive. The rest of us just ran around for three years or so creating threads and discovering links. Junior captured it all in one place. It's all there, the good, the bad, the ugly.

479 posted on 10/09/2002 11:28:51 AM PDT by PatrickHenry
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To: AndrewC
That is my point. Using your logic, I can't.

So my logic does not lead to the conclusions you've drawn for me using my logic.

A noteworthy point, indeed. Thanks for clearing that up.

480 posted on 10/09/2002 11:32:28 AM PDT by Condorman
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