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To: Happygal
Ah, mo mhile gra, my sole sadness is that he decided to come back. And perhaps that he learned nothing about the value of capitalism from being in Hong Kong.

Contrary to popular belief, Britain is not dead. New Labour is not the end of us, no more than the "New Democrats" are the end of America. What has not happened yet is that the opposition to New Labour rule has not united and found its stride. When it does, things will turn. But not in the direction Mr. Jacques wants - for the far left, which he represents, died when Blair buried Old Labour.

Love, Ivan

31 posted on 10/05/2002 2:56:20 PM PDT by MadIvan
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To: MadIvan
for the far left, which he represents, died when Blair buried Old Labour.

Do you really think so Ivan?
This may sound really peculiar, but sometimes there is something to be said for far leftist organisations being around as opposed to the insidious left organisations who clutter up the middle ground, muddying the waters for 'right' thinkers (take Ireland as an example). They have a left agenda, but temper it a few progressive capitalist programmes. They offer the regular ordinary 'thinking' Joe Soap (who could be swayed) to vote for them because they offer a choice (on paper, not in practice) that is appealing in it's 'common sense' without a completely shrill 21st century rampant right social ethic.

If they opposition was straight talking and showed their true colours as socialist leftists, in this day and age NONE of them would ever get a whiff of power again.

33 posted on 10/05/2002 3:08:46 PM PDT by Happygal
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To: Happygal; weikel; schmelvin
Though having said all this, I suspect now I'll be told, "Oh go lie down ye drunken eejit". ;)

Regards, Ivan

34 posted on 10/05/2002 3:08:50 PM PDT by MadIvan
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