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To: MadIvan
for the far left, which he represents, died when Blair buried Old Labour.

Do you really think so Ivan?
This may sound really peculiar, but sometimes there is something to be said for far leftist organisations being around as opposed to the insidious left organisations who clutter up the middle ground, muddying the waters for 'right' thinkers (take Ireland as an example). They have a left agenda, but temper it a few progressive capitalist programmes. They offer the regular ordinary 'thinking' Joe Soap (who could be swayed) to vote for them because they offer a choice (on paper, not in practice) that is appealing in it's 'common sense' without a completely shrill 21st century rampant right social ethic.

If they opposition was straight talking and showed their true colours as socialist leftists, in this day and age NONE of them would ever get a whiff of power again.

33 posted on 10/05/2002 3:08:46 PM PDT by Happygal
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To: Happygal
I think, mo mhile gra, the far left is dead in terms of out and out communism and socialism. No one is talking about nationalising the car industry anymore, for example.

Instead what the left is trying to achieve is a more modest goal - regulating us to death. Not communism, but bureaucratism. Both of us, being in the EU, see it every day in terms of being told what curvature our bananas can be, for example. And more seriously, in agricultural, work and safety regulations and so on.

It is a step backward so far as the out and out leftists are concerned. Like Jacques, they wouldn't be happy until they put up the gulag again.

Love, Ivan

36 posted on 10/05/2002 3:12:26 PM PDT by MadIvan
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