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Patrice Lumumba Ford, was an INTERN FOR PORTLAND MAYOR VERA KATZ (who denied the DOJ any help)

Posted on 10/04/2002 5:22:20 PM PDT by Las Vegas Dave

Patrice Lumumba Ford, one of the suspected terrorists arrested today, was an INTERN FOR PORTLAND MAYOR VERA KATZ, the mayor who refused to allow the Portland Police Bureau cooperate with the DOJ on terrorism investigative interviews!

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To: Las Vegas Dave; All
Would anybody find it strange for there to be link between Mayor Katz and the Montgomery County chief of police Charles Moose. Moose is the guy investigating the DC shootings?

look to bottom of page

I just found it on google doing a search for Katz and Ford

61 posted on 10/04/2002 9:24:41 PM PDT by knak
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To: stumpy
Now will the mayor fess up to her ties to terrorist organizations? Since she initially opposed investigations of potential terrorists, SHE SHOULD BE INVESTIGATED for her ties.

One down--one to go?

62 posted on 10/04/2002 9:27:36 PM PDT by henbane
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To: knak
February 18, 1998


Moose on the Loose?

Charles Moose is job shopping.

The city's popular but surly police chief reluctantly confirmed to WW that he has applied for a job as chief of the Washington, D.C., police force. "I wish I could just live my life," Moose told a WW reporter, refusing to comment any further on the move.

With four and a half years as the commander of Portland's 1,000-officer force, Moose has outlasted most of his colleagues across the country, whose average tenure is just three years. For the most part, Portland residents seem to like their top cop. But the past year or so hasn't been easy: Moose launched a controversial investigation into Capt. Mike Garvey's sex life; cracked down on rampant cell-phone use; and dealt with the shooting deaths of two officers.

If he gets the job, governing the scandal-plagued 3,600-officer D.C. police force won't be easy. Chief Larry Soulsby resigned in December after he was found to be paying suspiciously low rent on his posh downtown apartment. His roommate, a lieutenant, was indicted for extorting money from people who frequented gay nightclubs. Soulsby may be indicted, as well.

When told that Portland's chief was applying for a post in the nation's capital, the D.C. police department's spokesman said, "He doesn't want this job. It's a mess down here." And, the officer added, "My attitude is good compared to a lot of other officers on this force."

Mayor Vera Katz's office refused to comment on the chief's job application and would not say whether the move is an indication that Moose has outlasted his welcome with the mayor. --MO

63 posted on 10/04/2002 9:42:44 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: Las Vegas Dave
FWIW: The sheriff was the only one who acted after he observed these muslems shooting high power guns in the country.

Question> Where I come from, the sheriff is not under the city mayor. Is this the case here?

64 posted on 10/04/2002 9:45:53 PM PDT by cinFLA
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65 posted on 10/04/2002 9:46:43 PM PDT by Mo1
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To: knak
Moose lets Loose
The police chief's candid remarks get mixed reviews in Northeast Portland but seem to have won him support within the bureau.

BY MAUREEN O'HAGAN
mohagan@wweek.com


December 9, 1998



In the days since Police Chief Charles Moose let loose at a City Council meeting last week, one thing became clear: The chief stands alone.
In a discussion ostensibly aimed at defending his officers' actions during an August protest march that wound up in front of his house, the police chief was so uncharacteristically candid that he shocked city hall, fueled talk-radio shows and had Northeast Portland's community leaders abuzz.

Moose's remarks, which came from a prepared statement, caught his boss off guard. Mayor Vera Katz hadn't reviewed the statement. Nor had the two assistant chiefs who sat stone-faced on either side of Moose as he read to the council.

"I know he feels isolated from above and below," says one observer. "He feels alone, and as best as I can tell, he is. The only person in the world that he confides in is his wife."

When protesters chanted, "Where's the black fucking chief?" outside his home in Northeast Portland last summer, he and his wife, Sandy, were completely alone. "I felt captured," Moose said. "I was trying to assure her that the crowd was not going to shoot into our house, that they were not going to firebomb our house." Moose said he received just one supportive call after the event, and it did not come from anyone inside city hall.

Although Moose's statement rankled city officials, it's worth noting that they account for only one of his constituent groups--and not necessarily the most important one.

Moose's comments stemmed from an incident on Aug. 16 when officers shut down a party at Sellwood Park. The party was to be the third annual event held by Daniel Binns, a popular Northeast Portlander with a history of drug convictions in the 1980s. Police said the parties attract gang members and result in violence.

The next day, Binns and his supporters protested the police action by rallying a crowd on Martin Luther King Jr. Boulevard and leading the people on a march that stopped in front of Moose's house before continuing through the neighborhood. Officers fired beanbag projectiles at several members of the crowd when they would not disperse.

The mayor asked the chief to present a detailed report on the incident at a city-council meeting--something she's never done before.

In Northeast Portland's African-American community, where the events took place, reaction to Moose's statements has been mixed. Some, like state Rep. Joanne Bowman, were bothered by some aspects of the police action. Others, like local activist Richard Brown, said support for the chief hasn't dwindled because of his remarks. "Most people are thinking like him," Brown said. He agrees with the chief that, given the lack of education, jobs and affordable housing in Northeast Portland, too much energy was spent on a busted beach party.

Officers, with whom Moose has had a tense relationship in the past, rallied around the chief because they share his view of the events. "I can tell you that my pager started ringing off the hook, and I never got a negative comment from one member," says police union president Greg Pluchos. "They were all saying the chief needs to be commended and backed for this."

There are three reasons for this support. First, Daniel Binns is widely seen by officers as a crook because of his past. When Mayor Vera Katz and Binns hugged at a community meeting after the protest, police officers were mortified. "To have Daniel Binns bring down Charles Moose, that would be amazing," one officer said.

Second, although many officers on the streets have been bothered by the chief's legendary temper and by his discipline decisions, they were glad to have Moose support their handling of the Binns incident.

Third, officers were sympathetic to the chief's distress during the protest at his house. One officer told WW that he moved outside the city because he was constantly called upon--or in some cases harassed--by neighbors because he was a police officer. "I think it's difficult on anyone who's a police officer to deal with the day-to-day grind of police work and then to go home and have the neighborhood depend on them again throughout his evening hours when he's supposed to be spending time with his family," Pluchos said.

Moose says he doesn't regret the remarks but wishes he could have been more clear. So how does the chief think he's faring in light of the flap? "This isn't the mayor's office," he said. "I don't count numbers."
66 posted on 10/04/2002 9:46:59 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: knak
Can This Man Survive?
by Victoria Taft
OCTOBER 2000



At first glance he wouldn’t pass muster with Portland’s “political correctness” gestapo. He fills no quotas. So how did a guy like Mark Kroeker get to be the police chief in a place so dominated by liberalism that it often referred to as the “People’s Republic of Portland.” More to the point, how long can he hope to last?

Last winter as Y2K approached and the whole world was bracing for computers to crash, toilets to back up and the power grid to blow out; the city of Portland announced its choice to fill the power vacuum in the chief’s spot. Mark Kroeker, 55, a 35 year police veteran and former Deputy Chief in Los Angeles, was the person chosen to succeed Charles Moose. Moose had gone on to greener pastures in Virginia in what looked curiously like a “jump before you’re pushed” situation.

The choice was a bit of a surprise. After all, Kroeker was preceded in the chief’s spot by an African American man and before that a woman. It was clear that, in the name of diversity, the city mothers and fathers wanted someone who could serve Portland well, but who could fill a quota, too.

After three weeks of focus groups with community members from special interest groups — from the head of “Cop Watch” to the police union to the head of the gay and lesbian task force — and after a national search by a California firm; and vetting by a “Blue Ribbon” panel; three candidates emerged. Eventually Portland found what it was looking for: an experienced, polished, politically astute, heterosexual, religious white guy?

Who would have guessed?




Kroeker has also felt the sting of intolerance about his faith since he’s come to Portland. His Christian beliefs preceded him. They came with the package. But when activists from the May Day protests met with the chief and Mayor Vera Katz at Maranatha Church in northeast Portland with signs reading, “RIGHT WING CHRISTIAN GO BACK TO LA” and “CHRISTIANS ARE DIRT” it stung.

“I’ve seen hurt in the chief’s eyes because people damn him for being a Christian and for being from LA,” says the mayor’s police liaison, Elise Marshall, who has constant contact with the chief.

67 posted on 10/04/2002 9:50:53 PM PDT by kcvl
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To: eno_
You got that right. The Marine Corps recon that the shore party packs chutes for is mainly white guys and the heavily black shore party could have some Islam symps amongst them looking to end the "oppression."
68 posted on 10/04/2002 9:55:05 PM PDT by junta
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To: kcvl
Is that your Halloween costume for this year ?
69 posted on 10/04/2002 10:04:39 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: kcvl
One of these guys joined the Army Reserves. I heard that on Gretta and she asked a exmilitary type if he could join the reserves without going to the Army first and he said yes.
70 posted on 10/04/2002 10:10:29 PM PDT by tubebender
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Thanks for starting a separate thread on this relationship between Katz and an al Qaeda thug.

I will link up so threads from last year when this B$tch Katz refused to allow the FBI and Justice Dept to investigate leads.

What was she trying to hide then and now:(Mayor of Portland refuses to help FBI and Justice Dept in investigation of Islamakazi Terrorists)


71 posted on 10/04/2002 11:31:32 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Las Vegas Dave
Here is another link showing the direct obstruction of justice by this B$tch Katz: (link)

This is excerpted from this article/thread"

The U.S. Justice Department, under increasing attack from Congress and civil libertarians for its practice of detaining and questioning potential terrorists, faces outright defiance by the mayor of Portland, Ore.

Mayor Vera Katz, on a recommendation from the city attorney, said the Portland Police Department would be violating state law if it assisted the Justice Department in tracking down and interviewing the 23 men in the Portland area who are on a national list of 5,000 individuals being sought.

"I understand that our decision not to participate in the questioning will not be popular with some people," Katz stated. "However, our decision to abide by state law is fundamentally a legal issue." ============================================================

The Oregon AG disagreed with the b$tch Katz:

In the end, Katz sided with Portland City Attorney Jeffrey Rogers and ignored the recommendation of Oregon Attorney General Hardy Myers.

Myers issued his own interpretation in a memo to Charles Pritchard, the chief counsel of the state's criminal justice division.

"Oregon law does not prohibit Oregon DOJ criminal investigators from conducting such interviews as part of a criminal investigation to identify and apprehend people who have conspired, or are conspiring, to commit crimes," Myers wrote.

Myers not only presented his opinion, but also directed the criminal justice division to "assist the federal government with the interview process." ============================================================

Now we know that one of the reasons why Katz was obstructing justice was her intern, Patrice Lumbunga Ford.

I'm bet that financial records of contributions to the Katz will show many of the same contributors to Jihad Cindy McKinney, the Georgia islamakazi congressit, who recently lost an election due to the massive contributions from American Islamakazis around the nation!

72 posted on 10/04/2002 11:40:20 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: Grampa Dave
Wowsers! Ack! kgw.com says OREGON ALERT.
No kidding.

We've worked with Mayor Vera Katz and we like her. She is a good Mayor.

Hey, the last Mayor before her was famous for a poster of himself flashing a statue. Really.

"Oregon: Things Look Different Here."

73 posted on 10/04/2002 11:46:52 PM PDT by Cascadians
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To: Las Vegas Dave
It appears that Katz and her fellow Islamkazi lusters may have set up a sanctuary for Islamakazi terrorists in the USA. (Terrorists Booked Flight to Portland, Oregon)

Excerpts from this link are very chilling and need to be read by everyone on these links:

Federal authorities told KGW Wednesday that a credit card belonging to a Texas doctor may have been used to buy airline tickets for terrorist suspects to fly to Portland.

Al-Badr Al Hazmi, 34, of San Antonio, was in FBI custody undergoing questioning Wednesday.

Sources said his credit card was used to buy a ticket for one of the terrorist flights that crashed into the World Trade Center in New York, and now the FBI is looking into tickets he may have purchased for an upcoming flight to Portland.

Al Hazmi booked a trip for up to five people from San Antonio, through Denver and on to Portland for Saturday, September 22, sources told KGW.

The Associated Press reported that federal authorities believe a second wave of terrorist violence was planned for that day. ===========================================================

How many Islamakazi Terrorists have worked out of Portland because of the safety granted by Vera Katz?

How many Islamakazis are still in Portland or were up today, thanks to Vera Katz and her fellow lusters for Islamakazis?

74 posted on 10/04/2002 11:48:44 PM PDT by Grampa Dave
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To: dennisw
2 years ago my partner and I found 10 Afghanis practicing with AK-47's near the Mexican border. They were wearing the same thing. Robes and turbins.
75 posted on 10/05/2002 1:34:01 AM PDT by Ajnin
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To: Grampa Dave; Lion's Cub
That's interesting....

The Texas Dr., al Hazmi, is the same Doctor the two men who got off of a flight that had made a premature landing in St. Louis on 9/11, and who had then gotten on a train to San Antonio. They were captured with hair dye, false IDs, and boxcutters and a lot of excess cash. There were reports that they had shaved their bodies.

They're currently being held. They had owned newstands in the vicinity of the WTC and so forth. Atta had been seen in their neighborhood and they had had unusual meetings with young arabic males in the summer of 2001 that were noticed by others because normally those suspects had not had company very often. The sudden behavioral change was noticed by neighbors.

Their apartment had been searched after 911 once but the Wall Street Journal searched it after the anthrax cases popped up and found articles on biological warfare and on the Sarin gas attack in Japan.

The story hadn't got much play because the men were reported to be 'Indian.' They were Indian muslims, though, not Hindus.

76 posted on 10/05/2002 1:46:06 AM PDT by piasa
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To: Grampa Dave
According to the Dallas News, one of their reporters asked al Hazmi to participate in a forum on racial profiling and he replied to them that he and his family were leaving the US because they 'no longer felt safe here.'
77 posted on 10/05/2002 2:01:42 AM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa
Correction, I meant to say: "The Texas Dr, Dr al Hazmi, is the same Doctor the two men who got off of a flight that had made a premature landing in St. Louis on 9/11 claimed to be on their way to visit."

One man said under questioning the visit was to be for a week, the other said three weeks or something like that- their stories didn't match.

It isn't known if the real Dr. al Hazmi knew his credit cards were being used by the hijackers or not. If not, he was an innocent victim of identity theft- but if he did know then he was a participant in 9/11, and he's probably left the country by now.

That doesn't mean he's safe- they're probably safer IN America than if they leave and get intercepted outside the US.

78 posted on 10/05/2002 2:08:04 AM PDT by piasa
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To: dixiechick2000
Yes, Kroeker is a decent man. He was raked over the coals by Michael Savage on Friday, and he didn't deserve it. There was a lot of dissent in Portland about hiring him, since it was known that he was (GASP) a Christian conservative...so what's the first thing that Katz pressures him to do? Why, to march in a Gay Pride parade. I can't imagine what it would be like to work for the Katz witch. She's a bumbler and an incompetent; one thing she's done that I've written about here before it 'sensitivity training' for cops in which they had to attend a session with a transvestite. When cops complained that this was a waste of their time (they were pulled off to attend this silly thing during work hours), they were told, 'tough'.

I think Katz' lack of support for the police interviewing area Muslims may have been the last straw for Kroeker. He recently interviewed for the Police Chief position in L.A. He made the top ten, but didn't make the final-four cut. He was extremely disappointed. He wants out of Portland, and I can't blame him.

One question: this guy has interned three times for two different mayors. You may intern twice, but I've never heard of interning THREE TIMES for the same office over a 15-year span. Why was he so focused on the Mayor's office?

And why do I still live in Portland? High housing prices, insane city/county governments, politically correct to a fault...oh, yeah. It's because this is still one of the most beautiful areas in the world.
79 posted on 10/05/2002 4:48:43 AM PDT by Calico Cat
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To: cinFLA
The sheriff who investigated the shooting at the rock quarry was actually not in Portland, or even in Oregon. This occurred in rural Skamania County, Washington, across the Columbia River from the Portland area. The sheriff was under no obligation to obey Portland's stupid rules, and we're all better off for it.
80 posted on 10/05/2002 4:52:32 AM PDT by Calico Cat
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