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Another DC-area sniper-style shooting
Wife (FReeper nina0113) | October 4, 2002 | Steve0113

Posted on 10/04/2002 12:02:50 PM PDT by Steve0113

Another broad-daylight shooting just occurred, this time in Fredericksburg, VA, just off I-95. It's not even on the news yet.

About an hour's drive south of where the Montgomery County shootings happened, a woman was shot in the parking lot of a Michaels fabric store. My wife was in the store at the time. The victim had left the store and carried her purchases to her minivan. She unlocked the minivan and was loading her stuff into it when she was shot. No sign of the shooter.

No one else was injured.

The woman was taken away in an ambulance, condition unknown. Her license plate (which I'm not going to post) indicated that she had several children.


TOPICS: Breaking News; Crime/Corruption; News/Current Events; US: Virginia
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To: Teacup
Since she was shot in the back I seriously doubt she'll be able to provide any eyewitness details. I'm happy that she's going to survive. Now if she has a disgruntled husband or something....that's another story.
361 posted on 10/04/2002 1:50:47 PM PDT by Fred Mertz
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To: philetus
I guess it's not important enough for them to pre-empt Your World W/Cavuto out here in Calif.

I'm always forced to switch during the "Cavuto Hour".

362 posted on 10/04/2002 1:50:48 PM PDT by two23
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To: Aggie Mama
Prayers for the woman that she survives.

Prayers for our country.

363 posted on 10/04/2002 1:50:49 PM PDT by iconoclast
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To: ottersnot
MARCH 1994 : (NY, ATTACK ON HASIDICS ON BROOKLYN BRIDGE) Rashad Baz, an immigrant from Lebanon, and two others shoot up a van full of Hasidic students, wounding four, on the Brooklyn Bridge. Baz had entered the US on a student visa in 1984. He attended courses parttime at a community college in 1984-85. He married a U.S. citizen in 1989 and applied for legal residence in 1991. Baz was accompanied by Bassam Mousa Reyati, a Jordanian, who entered as a student in 1989 and received residency in 1992 on the basis of marriage to a U.S. citizen. Hlal Mohammed, a Jordanian, was the third terrorist.
364 posted on 10/04/2002 1:50:59 PM PDT by piasa
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To: Charles Martel
Shooting this person would be too good for them. Draw and quarter the jerk
and leave him for the buzzards.

Sounds like fun, but even that would be over too quickly. Now, fire ants...



Bury them up to their necks in the ground facing the rising sun and cut off their eyelids!
365 posted on 10/04/2002 1:51:05 PM PDT by Axenolith
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To: FreeTheHostages
We have drive byes also, but ususally drug-related, done from close range with handguns. If this is a couple of loose nut thrill killers, they've been practicing and planning.
366 posted on 10/04/2002 1:51:18 PM PDT by js1138
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To: piasa
"JANUARY 1993 : (CIA LANGLEY SHOOTER, VIRGINIA, KANSI) Mir Amal Kansi, a Pakistani, murders two CIA employees in a random shooting outside the Langley, VA headquarters and flees the country. He entered the United states in 1990 on a visa issued in Karachi, Pakistan and in 1992, Kansi applied for political asylum in the US and was routinely released with a work permit. Records indicate that he had been involved in anti-US demonstrations in Pakistan. He had purchased an AK-47 assault rifle in Virginia."

Bears repetition.
367 posted on 10/04/2002 1:51:37 PM PDT by FreeTheHostages
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To: Flyer
You should always be BLOATing

BLOAT with free shipping, I always say.

368 posted on 10/04/2002 1:51:41 PM PDT by The KG9 Kid
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To: Skywalk
I think these are the work of some determined killer, but uncertain am I regarding the Al-Qaeda/Terrorist sympathizer angle.

Terrorists don't tend to leave much doubt whether their actions were intended as terrorism. That's why I don't think there's much chance this is an al-Qaida plot.

These are thrill kills, I think.

369 posted on 10/04/2002 1:51:53 PM PDT by Dog Gone
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To: Vic3O3
Here's an interesting though. You've got the white, nondescript panel van driving through urban traffic. It stops for a stop light in traffic. The shooter opens his gun port/window/door, acquires a random target, and shoots. The driver drives off as soon as the light changes. For most of the area around where I work, this would mean a firing distance of anywhere from less than 50 meters to more than 400. Easily done with the proper firearm and stable shooting platform, (remember the van is stopped in traffic). The van would never be seen in a parking lot, would be highly mobile, and would fade into the background clutter of an urban setting.

Things that make me go hmmm...

Semper Fi
370 posted on 10/04/2002 1:52:05 PM PDT by dd5339
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To: piasa
And don't forget the Egyptian/Palestinian who shot some tourists outside or on top of the Empire State, roughly the same time frame.
371 posted on 10/04/2002 1:52:20 PM PDT by swarthyguy
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To: fightinJAG
I'm a very little North....

You are quite correct. Prayers.

We pray for the swift exposure of these persons whose intent is to kill, maim and destroy. May the totality of their incentive be laid bare and may it be published by those in charge without bias.

May the Lord put a blanket of calmness over this region, quashing fear and panic in the population, its and ability leaders and any who look to Him for deep seated peace (shalom).

May God give wisdom to the LEO's to "hear", to "see" and to perceive accurately (without presupposition, prejudgement or vain assumption) and responsibly what is being described to them by witnesses. May God give boldness and courage to witnesses to come forward if they have seen or know anything significant and weed out others. May He cause righteous judgement to prevail in every avenue of the investigation and the reporting of the results.

May He bring comfort to those who mourn and a spirit of genuine thanks to the hearts of those whose friends and loved ones have been spared.

By full acknowledgment of Your enormous mercy, may the following Word apply to us and to our nation:
Psalm 18:35
Thou hast also given me(us) the shield of thy salvation: and thy right hand hath holden me(us) up, and thy gentleness hath made me(us) great.

May the victory gained by His right hand for his namesake be treasured by all who recognize it.




372 posted on 10/04/2002 1:53:40 PM PDT by Spirited
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To: Salgak
If this IS an Al-Qaeda op, I'd suspect 5-10 teams, same MO, different vehicles, shoot one, move on to next target zone.

I agree.

373 posted on 10/04/2002 1:54:06 PM PDT by ET(end tyranny)
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To: FreeTheHostages
Dude, I'm just glad I moved from Silver Spring last year! Who knew all this would go down?!

Not that I'm safe in Islamikazistan(Seattle)
375 posted on 10/04/2002 1:55:03 PM PDT by Skywalk
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To: BCR #226
Even without a suppressor, it is nearly impossible to determine the origin of an unexpected single shot, especially in a developed area where the sound bounces off the buildings. In that same setting, it is even quite difficult to track quick multiple shots.
376 posted on 10/04/2002 1:55:07 PM PDT by VMI70
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To: exlibris
It's just a habit when I'm using written expression on a public forum. As I've confessed here ad nauseum, I'm far from pious. My own personal language amongst adult male friends of like mind is rather.....salty.

It's just my little feeble attempt at respect for our creator. I know a lot of evangelicals and orthodox jews do the same but I'm neither.

I'm a bit inconsistent I admit. I refrain from spelling G-d yet I use the the vernacular for excrement on some threads if I'm angry.

Sorry...
377 posted on 10/04/2002 1:55:40 PM PDT by wardaddy
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To: Bigg Red
It's at least 45 or 50 miles away. Picture DC metro as a big clock face--yesterday's shootings occured at about 10 O'Clock and very close in to the center of the clock. This is at 6 O'Clock, way to the south--the very southern edge of what could even be considered a DC suburb. It's actually about halfway between DC and Richmond.

Hope this helps...
378 posted on 10/04/2002 1:55:49 PM PDT by LibertyGirl77
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To: Diddle E. Squat
What day did the anthrax attack first take place? Wasn't it about a year ago?

The two letters to Daschle and Leahy were postmarked October 9....in Trenton New Jersey....

379 posted on 10/04/2002 1:56:01 PM PDT by SGCOS
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To: ET(end tyranny)
Them's a lot of coincidences!
380 posted on 10/04/2002 1:56:10 PM PDT by js1138
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