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Voters Should Reject Costly Class-Size Amendment
The Tampa Tribune ^
| Oct 4, 2002
| Tampa Tribune Editorial Opinion
Posted on 10/04/2002 7:42:45 AM PDT by windchime
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Please see Ragtime Cowgirl's Post On This Topic: http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/762894/posts Quite a contrast here. Obviously, the Tampa Tribune has a jounalist who "still cares about the truth".
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posted on
10/04/2002 7:42:46 AM PDT
by
windchime
To: windchime
WOW, this is actually a NEWSPAPER editorial?
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posted on
10/04/2002 7:47:32 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
To: windchime
Interesting editorial from the hometown of "Income Tax and
Spend" Bill McBride. Just another Lawton Chiles clone.
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posted on
10/04/2002 8:03:18 AM PDT
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CSXT
To: CSXT
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posted on
10/04/2002 8:18:27 AM PDT
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windchime
To: 1Old Pro
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posted on
10/04/2002 8:25:16 AM PDT
by
windchime
To: windchime
Perhaps there is hope afterall.
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posted on
10/04/2002 8:40:05 AM PDT
by
1Old Pro
To: 1Old Pro
"Perhaps there is hope afterall."
We wouldn't be here looking for scraps of truth if we didn't think so.
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posted on
10/04/2002 9:01:52 AM PDT
by
windchime
To: windchime; summer; floriduh voter; JulieRNR21; Goldwater Girl; PhiKapMom; Wait4Truth; ...
the Tampa Tribune has a jounalist who "still cares about the truth". Even the Miami Herald has printed this: Voters favor class-size plan -- but not cost, Sept. 29, Miami Herald. Voters overwhelmingly support the "class-size" amendment until they hear the cost. Other papers..?
Florida Freepers master ping. Fla. press fairness alert.
Please let me know whether you want on or off the "'til election day" Fla. ping list.
To: windchime
Okay, who hacked the Trib?
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posted on
10/04/2002 9:17:13 AM PDT
by
mewzilla
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Thanks for the 'ping', Ragtime Cowgirl!
To: mewzilla
"Okay, who hacked the Trib?"
Dunno, but they're on the right side of the issue.
To: mewzilla
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Keep me on please.
This is great to see the truth come out in an editorial by the press! Maybe it is all the grief you Florida Freepers have been giving them.
You Florida Freepers are #1 IMHO!
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
It is a sad commentary that we are so shocked when we see honest reporting by a member of the press. However, I still applaud it. Governor Bush has already criticized mclawyer for not telling voters how much this would cost them. When I was a kid, we had 34-36 students in our classes and we learned. It' s not about class size; it's about teacher qualifications and discipline. It's also about parents...the liberals will never learn.
To: PhiKapMom; Wait4Truth
Hugs to you both.
If this "class-size" scam hasn't arrived in your state PKM...it will, although Oklahoma could win this war for the rest of the nation...hold out against the NEA-VLWC. You need us, just ping. (^;
According to Chanin (Robert Chanin, NEA General Counsel), it would be worthwhile for the NEA to make the effort to engage in high scale, new education-reform-friendly model statutes, even if a legislative approach based on collaboration should fail. Such an initiative would demonstrate that collective bargaining and education reform are fully compatible. Chanin concluded, "Finally, this type of effort would reaffirm, that despite its agenda, the NEA is first and foremost a union and employee representation is the lifeblood of any union!" .
NEA convention 2000 - class-size is about increasing Union membership."The evils of vouchers were by far the preeminent topic throughout the convention. Neither of us heard as much as one sentence that portrayed vouchers as anything but a right-wing scheme to destroy public education, or a snare and a delusion for the unwary. Other than vouchers, internal affairs and national politics, the focus was on racism, discrimination, homophobia, higher federal appropriations, and more teacher benefits and protections."NEA-NAACP, these are "non-partisan" tax-free organization?
During this year's regular legislative session, Sen. Kendrick Meek, D-Miami, tried unsuccessfully to get a bill passed that would limit the size of classes in Florida's schools. When his efforts failed, he started a citizen ballot initiative that, if passed, would amend the state constitution ...
Voters Should Reject Costly Class-Size Amendment , Oct. 2002.
Good "class-size" resource.
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Here is the Oklahoma rules (actually most of our elementary classrooms won't take more that 20-24 students per classroom in the elementary schools):
Reduced class sizes: For kindergarten through sixth grades, a student teacher ratio of 20:1 is mandated. For students in grades seventh through twelfth, the maximum number of students allowed per teacher is 140 per day. Failure to comply with class size limits results in sanctions, which are authorized by statute. The amount of funding withheld from school districts for exceeding class size limits decreased from $989,866 in FY'92 to $28,479 in FY'00, a reduction of 97%.
Exemptions: Some classrooms are exempted from calculations of class size limits:
- If the class taught is a physical education or music class;
- If the classroom exceeds the limit within the first nine weeks of school;
- If the creation of an additional class will cause a class to have fewer than 10 students in kindergarten through grade three, and fewer than 16 for grades four through six.
- If a teacher's assistant is employed to serve in classrooms that exceed the class size limitation.
- If the school district has voted indebtedness through the issuance of bonds for more than 85% of the maximum allowable pursuant to the provisions of Section 26 of Article X of the Oklahoma Constitution; or
- If the school district is voting the maximum millage allowable for the support, maintenance and construction of schools.
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
This election is starting to make me just as crazy as 2000! Between the unions, the RATS and the trial lawyers, I am sure I am going to go nuts!
To: Wait4Truth
When the press makes me nuts, I call a Senator, or a reporter, lol. It helps. I'm not being kind to the press in my calls and e-mails...even knowing "a soft answer turns away wrath"...because I don't think the left hears reason today, but will respond to toughness and anger. Rummy can, summer can, I vent...and repent. (^:
To: Ragtime Cowgirl
Refreshing to read the truth in a newspaper....thanks for the ping!
Is Jeb running any tv ads about the cost of Amendment 9 yet?
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10/04/2002 8:27:27 PM PDT
by
Mo1
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