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Twenty-three year old man shot dead by police in a marijuana raid
Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/01/02 | Cathy Mong

Posted on 10/01/2002 7:16:59 AM PDT by Phantom Lord

Dozens protest Preble County police shooting

Slain man’s roommates say he was unarmed

EATON | Preble County law-enforcement officials declined to talk publicly Monday as they turned information about Friday's fatal shooting by a police officer of a 23-year-old man over to detectives from the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office.

Montgomery County investigators, called in by Preble County Sheriff Tom Hayes, also said they would not talk about their review of the shooting by a member of a Preble County's emergency services group — officers from a number of police departments who are trained to handle drownings and hostage and other situations.

However, it was anything but quiet outside the Preble County Courthouse, where dozens of friends and relatives picketed and said that police were covering up what happened to Clayton Jacob Helriggle, 23, of 1282 Ohio 503 South.

The protesters disputed police claims that Helriggle had a gun when he descended a stairwell and was shot by a Lewisburg police officer, whose identity has not been released. Friends and relatives on Monday carried blue plastic cups similar to the one they said Helriggle had in his hand Friday night.

Among the protesters were four of Helriggle's roommates, three of whom said they were inside the brick farmhouse when police stormed the house to serve a warrant to search for narcotics.

Maj. Wayne Simpson of the Preble County Sheriff's Office declined to discuss information about what happened Friday night and said a report on the shooting of the Preble County man had not been completed. Preble County Prosecutor Rebecca Ferguson said she sealed the search warrant after the shooting, and had no comment regarding the investigation.

"They're a professional group of officers, that's what their job is, and I'm not going to second-guess them. Whatever (Montgomery County officials) come up with, they come up with," Ferguson said.

Friends called Helriggle "peaceful and nonviolent," but police said the 1997 Twin Valley South High School graduate held a 9 mm handgun, not a blue cup, in his right hand when he descended the dimly lighted stairs. Roommates said Helriggle owned a 9 mm gun, but that it was upstairs when police entered their house.

"It's like we were armed, hardened criminals waiting inside to take them on," said Wes Bradley, 26, who lived in the bottom of the six-bedroom farmhouse with his girlfriend, 22-year-old Tasha Webster.

Bradley said he and Webster were near the kitchen next to the stairs, when officers "broke through the back door with battering rams and started throwing in flash grenades three at a time, to blind us."

The officers wore full body armor and carried shields, he said.

Another roommate, Ian Albert, said he had returned home from the grocery store with Chris Elmore, 24, who remained outside while Albert ran into the house.

"We saw at least two paddy wagon-type vehicles, like a SWAT bus," Elmore said. "About 30 officers stormed out of the woods" surrounding the farmhouse. "They'd cut the barbed wire, and you could see a staging area, like where 25 to 30 uniformed cops had been lying down and slithered along the grass."

Officers ordered Elmore to get on the ground, and he said he heard three pops, which he said could have been the flash grenades and gunshot.

"I yelled 'Nobody's armed,' and they told me, 'Shut up, shut up.' ”

Elmore described the action "like a movie, in slow motion."

Inside, Albert said, the police threw him against the staircase, "with my head on the second step up. I wanted to yell at Clay, but I looked up and saw him, rounding the stairway, and he had this look on his face, like, 'What's going on?' and the cops yelled, 'Get down' and then 'boom.' ”

Albert, who completed four months of Navy Seal training, said he reached up for Helriggle, "and I tried to apply pressure," he said, placing his left palm on his right chest, where Helriggle was struck by the gunshot.

"He died in my arms," he said. "It took about two minutes."

Albert said he was placed in a sheriff's car, and Helriggle's parents arrived.

"They saw me, drenched in Clay's blood, and they ask me, 'Is he all right?' and I just shook my head. The cops are smoking and joking, high-fiving each other. Wow, I think, they took down a farm of unarmed hippies.

"If they would have come to the door and said, 'Give us your dope, hippies,' we'd have gotten about a $100 ticket."

Police said they confiscated a small amount of marijuana, pills, drug paraphernalia and quantities of packaging items used in the distribution of marijuana.

The four roommates said they smoke marijuana from time to time and that they had marijuana pipes in the house. Bradley said he had a prescription for Fiorocet, a codeinelike painkiller, for a bad knee. They said the packaging police referred to was a box of plastic sandwich bags.

Webster said there was nothing in the house "that a good divorce lawyer couldn't have gotten us out on a misdemeanor," and said an old shotgun and a .22-caliber rifle found there were used for hunting.

"We target-practiced outside all the time, shot at bales of hay, jugs, that sort of thing," Webster said.

Bradley and Webster said Helriggle took a nap around 5 p.m. and had made plans to meet his girlfriend later.

"I'm not sure if he woke up from the bashing on the door or what," Bradley said.

All four said they were not read their rights or told what charges were filed against them. They were released from the Preble County Jail around 1:30 a.m. Saturday. No criminal charges have been filed.

Nancy Fahrenholz, the daughter of Everett "Bill" Fahrenholz, an attorney and former country prosecutor, hugged Bradley on Monday at the courthouse. Helriggle and five roommates rented the house from the Fahrenholzes.

"I'm so sorry," said Fahrenholz, a Rhode Island resident in the area to finish up the estate of her father, Bill Fahrenholz, who died a month ago.

"(Dad) would have been furious at this," she said. "We're all very distressed."

She said Helriggle "was a really nice guy," and that her family was pleased with the five young people's work on rehabilitating the farmhouse.

Helriggle's 77-year-old grandfather, Donald, a Miamisburg resident and Ohio Bell retiree, said his grandson rented the farmhouse "so they could play their instruments, listen to their music and drink a little beer. . . . They just wanted to be doing what 23-year-olds do."


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To: coloradan
http://www.fda.gov/opacom/laws/cntrlsub/cntlsba.htm
521 posted on 10/03/2002 11:21:54 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: headsonpikes
Who now will deny the power of right reason?!?

English, please.

522 posted on 10/03/2002 11:22:43 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: coloradan
I know that. You know that. Somewhere there is a Third-grader reading the Constitution for the first time and they'll be able to figure that out pretty quickly.

Roscoe, has a problem. He seems to think that if Congress passes a Law, that it is therefore "Constitutional" and that circuit court judges are never wrong (unless they have ruled contrary to whatever point Roscoe happens to be trying to make).

He's also got some problems with the way the Constitution is applied to the States.

Treat him like you would a broken record of a tune you have long gotten tired of listening to.

523 posted on 10/03/2002 11:23:04 AM PDT by Dead Corpse
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To: Roscoe
"There also are a number of fanatics on FR who falsely contend that laws restricting any drugs are unconstitional. I enjoy encouraging them to try to produce any support at all for their inane position." - roscoe

Clever wording, roscoe.
- We all know our states have the power to ~regulate~ intoxicating substances. -- Restrict? Sure, states can restrict the public use, sale, etc, of most anything, --- ~if~ -- reasonable constitutional guidelines, [IE, due process] are followed in the making of such law.

Outright prohibitions are not due process, - not constitutional, and not part of our guaranteed republican form of government.

524 posted on 10/03/2002 11:29:52 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Roscoe
Check out Roscoe's stance on the Drug War.
I'm all too familiar with Roscoe's stance on many things.
525 posted on 10/03/2002 11:30:21 AM PDT by philman_36
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To: tpaine
Outright prohibitions are not due process

Wrong. Sourceless.

526 posted on 10/03/2002 11:31:10 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Dead Corpse
He seems to think that if Congress passes a Law

which clearly states its Constitional basis at length and then is upheld by every court in America for decades, the burden shifts to those who contend the law is "unconstitutional." A burden they have not begun to meet, BTW.

527 posted on 10/03/2002 11:35:10 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Outright prohibitions are not due process

Wrong. Sourceless.

No source needed. Both common law and common sense tell us so.

528 posted on 10/03/2002 11:36:41 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Roscoe
Sorry, I'll have to ask again s l o w l y:

Where in the Constitution is the authorization for the DEA? Where in the Constitution is the authorization to ban leafy substances? One does not cite a law to determine whether that law is Constitutional or not - one cites the Constitution ... if one can.

Slow enough for you?

529 posted on 10/03/2002 11:37:35 AM PDT by coloradan
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To: Roscoe
Tell it to Dred Scott.
530 posted on 10/03/2002 11:38:23 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
Tell it to Dred Scott.

Who was victimized by the court's refusal to uphold a state's prohibition on slavery within its borders?

Shot yourself in the foot again.

531 posted on 10/03/2002 11:41:41 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: coloradan
Click on the link. Read as slowly as you like.

http://www.fda.gov/opacom/laws/cntrlsub/cntlsba.htm
532 posted on 10/03/2002 11:42:40 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: tpaine
common law

Says no such thing. Another citeless invention.

533 posted on 10/03/2002 11:44:18 AM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Nitpicking again, roscoe. - Foot in your own mouth.
534 posted on 10/03/2002 11:45:38 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Roscoe
Compete denial, - roscoes defense against common sense.
535 posted on 10/03/2002 11:47:28 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Hemingway's Ghost; Wolfie; vin-one; WindMinstrel; headsonpikes; philman_36; Beach_Babe; jenny65; ...
HG, I think you about covered it, but for all those duplicates, sorry,

Everyone Check out Roscoe, posts that I could find, 498, and 504 are interesting.
536 posted on 10/03/2002 11:58:13 AM PDT by vin-one
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To: AxelPaulsenJr; tpaine
Here's an Anti-WOD post from Jim Robinson:

"There is nothing in the U.S. Constitution that authorizes the federal government to wage war against the citizens of the United States, no matter how well-meaning the intent. The Bill of Rights means just as much today, as it did on the day it was written. And its protections are just as valid and just as important to freedom today, as they were to our Founders two hundred years ago. The danger of the drug war is that it erodes away those rights. Once the fourth amendment is meaningless, it's just that much easier to erode away the first and then the second, etc. Soon we'll have no rights at all. "

Jim Robinson, 5/9/01

Personal attacks, petty (and not so petty) bickering, flame wars, feuding, etc.

537 posted on 10/03/2002 12:01:14 PM PDT by Beach_Babe
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To: Roscoe
Click on the link. Read as slowly as you like.

http://www.fda.gov/opacom/laws/cntrlsub/cntlsba.htm

"I write separately only to express my view that the very notion of a "substantial effects" test under the Commerce Clause is inconsistent with the original understanding of Congress' powers and with this Court's early Commerce Clause cases. By continuing to apply this rootless and malleable standard, however circumscribed, the Court has encouraged the Federal Government to persist in its view that the Commerce Clause has virtually no limits. Until this Court replaces its existing Commerce Clause jurisprudence with a standard more consistent with the original understanding, we will continue to see Congress appropriating state police powers under the guise of regulating commerce."

-Justice Clarence Thomas

538 posted on 10/03/2002 12:10:45 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: KDD
My thanks! I'd been looking for that.
539 posted on 10/03/2002 12:12:40 PM PDT by philman_36
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To: tacticalogic
Ignore, ignore, ignore...
540 posted on 10/03/2002 12:17:10 PM PDT by philman_36
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