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Twenty-three year old man shot dead by police in a marijuana raid
Dayton Daily News ^ | 10/01/02 | Cathy Mong

Posted on 10/01/2002 7:16:59 AM PDT by Phantom Lord

Dozens protest Preble County police shooting

Slain man’s roommates say he was unarmed

EATON | Preble County law-enforcement officials declined to talk publicly Monday as they turned information about Friday's fatal shooting by a police officer of a 23-year-old man over to detectives from the Montgomery County Sheriff's Office.

Montgomery County investigators, called in by Preble County Sheriff Tom Hayes, also said they would not talk about their review of the shooting by a member of a Preble County's emergency services group — officers from a number of police departments who are trained to handle drownings and hostage and other situations.

However, it was anything but quiet outside the Preble County Courthouse, where dozens of friends and relatives picketed and said that police were covering up what happened to Clayton Jacob Helriggle, 23, of 1282 Ohio 503 South.

The protesters disputed police claims that Helriggle had a gun when he descended a stairwell and was shot by a Lewisburg police officer, whose identity has not been released. Friends and relatives on Monday carried blue plastic cups similar to the one they said Helriggle had in his hand Friday night.

Among the protesters were four of Helriggle's roommates, three of whom said they were inside the brick farmhouse when police stormed the house to serve a warrant to search for narcotics.

Maj. Wayne Simpson of the Preble County Sheriff's Office declined to discuss information about what happened Friday night and said a report on the shooting of the Preble County man had not been completed. Preble County Prosecutor Rebecca Ferguson said she sealed the search warrant after the shooting, and had no comment regarding the investigation.

"They're a professional group of officers, that's what their job is, and I'm not going to second-guess them. Whatever (Montgomery County officials) come up with, they come up with," Ferguson said.

Friends called Helriggle "peaceful and nonviolent," but police said the 1997 Twin Valley South High School graduate held a 9 mm handgun, not a blue cup, in his right hand when he descended the dimly lighted stairs. Roommates said Helriggle owned a 9 mm gun, but that it was upstairs when police entered their house.

"It's like we were armed, hardened criminals waiting inside to take them on," said Wes Bradley, 26, who lived in the bottom of the six-bedroom farmhouse with his girlfriend, 22-year-old Tasha Webster.

Bradley said he and Webster were near the kitchen next to the stairs, when officers "broke through the back door with battering rams and started throwing in flash grenades three at a time, to blind us."

The officers wore full body armor and carried shields, he said.

Another roommate, Ian Albert, said he had returned home from the grocery store with Chris Elmore, 24, who remained outside while Albert ran into the house.

"We saw at least two paddy wagon-type vehicles, like a SWAT bus," Elmore said. "About 30 officers stormed out of the woods" surrounding the farmhouse. "They'd cut the barbed wire, and you could see a staging area, like where 25 to 30 uniformed cops had been lying down and slithered along the grass."

Officers ordered Elmore to get on the ground, and he said he heard three pops, which he said could have been the flash grenades and gunshot.

"I yelled 'Nobody's armed,' and they told me, 'Shut up, shut up.' ”

Elmore described the action "like a movie, in slow motion."

Inside, Albert said, the police threw him against the staircase, "with my head on the second step up. I wanted to yell at Clay, but I looked up and saw him, rounding the stairway, and he had this look on his face, like, 'What's going on?' and the cops yelled, 'Get down' and then 'boom.' ”

Albert, who completed four months of Navy Seal training, said he reached up for Helriggle, "and I tried to apply pressure," he said, placing his left palm on his right chest, where Helriggle was struck by the gunshot.

"He died in my arms," he said. "It took about two minutes."

Albert said he was placed in a sheriff's car, and Helriggle's parents arrived.

"They saw me, drenched in Clay's blood, and they ask me, 'Is he all right?' and I just shook my head. The cops are smoking and joking, high-fiving each other. Wow, I think, they took down a farm of unarmed hippies.

"If they would have come to the door and said, 'Give us your dope, hippies,' we'd have gotten about a $100 ticket."

Police said they confiscated a small amount of marijuana, pills, drug paraphernalia and quantities of packaging items used in the distribution of marijuana.

The four roommates said they smoke marijuana from time to time and that they had marijuana pipes in the house. Bradley said he had a prescription for Fiorocet, a codeinelike painkiller, for a bad knee. They said the packaging police referred to was a box of plastic sandwich bags.

Webster said there was nothing in the house "that a good divorce lawyer couldn't have gotten us out on a misdemeanor," and said an old shotgun and a .22-caliber rifle found there were used for hunting.

"We target-practiced outside all the time, shot at bales of hay, jugs, that sort of thing," Webster said.

Bradley and Webster said Helriggle took a nap around 5 p.m. and had made plans to meet his girlfriend later.

"I'm not sure if he woke up from the bashing on the door or what," Bradley said.

All four said they were not read their rights or told what charges were filed against them. They were released from the Preble County Jail around 1:30 a.m. Saturday. No criminal charges have been filed.

Nancy Fahrenholz, the daughter of Everett "Bill" Fahrenholz, an attorney and former country prosecutor, hugged Bradley on Monday at the courthouse. Helriggle and five roommates rented the house from the Fahrenholzes.

"I'm so sorry," said Fahrenholz, a Rhode Island resident in the area to finish up the estate of her father, Bill Fahrenholz, who died a month ago.

"(Dad) would have been furious at this," she said. "We're all very distressed."

She said Helriggle "was a really nice guy," and that her family was pleased with the five young people's work on rehabilitating the farmhouse.

Helriggle's 77-year-old grandfather, Donald, a Miamisburg resident and Ohio Bell retiree, said his grandson rented the farmhouse "so they could play their instruments, listen to their music and drink a little beer. . . . They just wanted to be doing what 23-year-olds do."


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To: Phantom Lord
Twenty-three year old man shot dead by police in a marijuana raid

See... Drugs do kill.

"marijuana"

"man ... dead"

341 posted on 10/02/2002 11:04:59 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: 69ConvertibleFirebird
Don't laugh: I'm sure this incident will find its way into some government statistic databank as a "marijuana-related death."
342 posted on 10/02/2002 11:07:55 AM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
Fanatical legal absolutists like roscoe aren't much fun anywhere.

For him, life is all about nitpicking.
343 posted on 10/02/2002 11:08:40 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: tpaine
For him, life is all about nitpicking.

I could care less if Roscoe simply nitpicked. It's his obsession with controlling other people that I have a bit of a problem with...

344 posted on 10/02/2002 11:10:49 AM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
No doubt you are correct...
345 posted on 10/02/2002 11:10:52 AM PDT by 69ConvertibleFirebird
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To: FormerLurker
For him, life is all about nitpicking.

"I could care less if Roscoe simply nitpicked. It's his obsession with controlling other people that I have a bit of a problem with..." - FL -

Yep, he, and millions of fanatics like him are responsible for the decline of our constitutional free republic. - On a much smaller scale the same truth would hold for the decline of this forum.
346 posted on 10/02/2002 11:22:39 AM PDT by tpaine
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To: Hemingway's Ghost

I hear you. In a nutshell, Roscoe's tremendous legal argument is "the CSA exists because it says it exists and has the authority to exist and since no court has said it doesn't, it has to be a-o-k." He must be rip-roaring fun at cocktail parties.

Yeah, but even they became quickly bored by his stagnation and stopped inviting him.
347 posted on 10/02/2002 11:32:46 AM PDT by Zon
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To: Roscoe
RE: Incidents of the traffic which are not an integral part of the interstate or foreign flow, such as manufacture, local distribution, and possession, nonetheless have a substantial and direct effect upon interstate commerce . . . . ."
-- UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT, No. 253 August Term, 1996

How in the world does an herb growing in my garden which goes no further than into my home effect interstate commerce?

Oh, right I forgot, I might not buy any alcohol because of it and the gov't won't get any tax benefits.
348 posted on 10/02/2002 1:04:47 PM PDT by PaxMacian
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To: Roscoe
1. "The whole authority of the CSA is predicated on a New Deal interpretation of what constitutes interstate commerce---NOTHING ELSE."

Followed by this non sequiter "evidence."

2. How could you possibly say that this definition of what constitutes interstate commerce is not overly broad?

"A major portion of the traffic in controlled substances flows through interstate and foreign commerce. Incidents of the traffic which are not an integral part of the interstate or foreign flow, such as manufacture, local distribution, and possession, nonetheless have a substantial and direct effect upon interstate commerce . . . . ." -- UNITED STATES COURT OF APPEALS FOR THE SECOND CIRCUIT, No. 253 August Term, 1996

"Commerce among the states cannot stop at the external boundary line of each state, but may be introduced into the interior. It is not intended to say that these words comprehend that commerce which is completely internal, which is carried on between man and man in a state, or between different parts of the same state, and which does not extend to or affect other states. ." -- United States Supreme Court, Gibbons v. Ogden, 9 Wheat. 1 (1824)

"Drug trafficking organizations in Mexico and Colombia produce an estimated 10,000 metric tons of marijuana yearly; approximately 7,500 metric tons of that marijuana is intended for U.S. markets." -- USDOJ

Your history seems to be as weak as your law and your logic.

349 posted on 10/02/2002 1:14:45 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: PaxMacian
How in the world does an herb growing in my garden which goes no further than into my home effect interstate commerce?

1 plant? 10 plants? 1000 plants? 1,000,000 plants?

Who draws the line? You or the law?

350 posted on 10/02/2002 1:18:25 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: FormerLurker
But WHY the pressure for a Constitutional Amendment when a simple Act of Congress would have sufficed?

"Sufficed" for what?

351 posted on 10/02/2002 1:19:43 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
"Sufficed" for what?

Sufficed to prohibit liquor.

352 posted on 10/02/2002 1:20:48 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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To: Hemingway's Ghost
http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/760697/posts?page=349#349
353 posted on 10/02/2002 1:21:17 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: FormerLurker
The prohibition forces had already largely accomplished that at the state level, but state and federal legislation is quickly and easily changed.

http://www.freerepublic.com/focus/news/760697/posts?page=323#323
354 posted on 10/02/2002 1:24:27 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: FormerLurker
BTW, absinthe was banned in the United States in 1912.
355 posted on 10/02/2002 1:27:05 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
Who draws the line? You or the law?

Who decided there is some magic line at which a sufficient quantity of something becomes "commerce" even though it is not being bought, sold, or traded?

356 posted on 10/02/2002 1:29:45 PM PDT by tacticalogic
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To: tacticalogic
You claim the illicit drug trade is actual commerce, yet defend a prohibition based on it's being potential commerce.

You seem to be suggesting that enforcement must wait until the moment of actual sale. That's ludicrous.

357 posted on 10/02/2002 1:30:43 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: tacticalogic
Who decided there is some magic line at which a sufficient quantity of something becomes "commerce" even though it is not being bought, sold, or traded?

Massive amounts of illicit drugs are being "bought, sold or traded." Congress and the states both typically set different penalties for possession of different quantitities of illicit drugs.

358 posted on 10/02/2002 1:36:45 PM PDT by Roscoe
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To: Roscoe
More circles. You're easily entertained.

359 posted on 10/02/2002 1:37:37 PM PDT by Hemingway's Ghost
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To: Roscoe
The prohibition forces had already largely accomplished that at the state level, but state and federal legislation is quickly and easily changed.

Apparently it's easier to repeal a Constitutional Amendment than repeal an act of Congress. How many federal laws have been repealed lately?

I don't buy that explanation Roscoe.

360 posted on 10/02/2002 1:40:35 PM PDT by FormerLurker
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