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To: Mitchell
We still have to go into Iraq to search out the sites- whether he's there or not. The UN cease fire was between the coalition and Iraq, not the coalition and Hussein. So we must go in with him or without him.

Without physical territory and oil revenue, even the 60% cash he obtains through that absurd 'food for oil' sham where he buys food and medicine but instead takes cash kickbacks and little food, Hussein is a nobody, not even capable of WMD.

He's not set up like Osama bin Laden with a group of religiously motivated loyalists who adore him. Remember, Osama was literally loved- he was soft spoken to his people, generous to them and to 'the poor', and his followers saw him as almost a prophet. He actually had a fan club- Saddam Hussein, on the other hand, only has a fan club among the European and American left and we know they are about worthless in a fight. Hussein only obtains loyalty from Iraqis with FEAR. People who rule by fear need the institutions of a state to secure the peon's loyalty and to prevent themselves from getting assassinated. Saddam's not worshipped. He's not seen as a prophet. He's detested. Without the support of religious fanatics, he must rely instead on a personal guard, guarded by yet another guard, spied on by spies who are in turn spied on by other informants, and so forth.

Hussein is still alive only because there is absolutely no trust in anyone and so, conspiracies are difficult to get rolling in a climate of fear like that. The reward for everyone's loyalty is to not be executed. And enough pay to keep anyone from becoming so desperate that they can overcome their fear, of course.

So let's say ol' Hussein just slinks off to the 'underground.' If he does so, he loses the institutions that he needs to spy on other institutions and keep them loyal. He loses his source of income, and cannot pay his agencies and protectors. Instead of spying on one another they would begin to conspire against Hussein, and the fewer resources hussein has, the more quickly this will happen. He'd be stabbed in the back inside of a day because no one loves him for himself or for his ideology- in that respect he's even more pathetic than bin Laden who had his merry band of devoted fanatics who would lay their lives down for him.

If he goes 'underground,' how will he take his scientists with him and prevent them from escape? How will he guard them and make sure they continue to work? How will he get people to manufacture the things he needs without a place, without income, and with a much reduced staff of spies and informants? He can't- he's not a religious figure, he's not inspiring, he is loyal to no one and nno one is loyal to him- if he can't pay and if he can't control, he's as good as dead.

Unlike Usama, all of Hussein's hopes and dreams are invested in his Babylonian fantasy, for he sees himself as a reincarnated King, and he needs servants, perks and physical structures as much as he needs more practical training camps and bases. He isn't going to give up Iraq, not to go underground and not even to preserve his own life. His empire is his heart and soul and without it he's seen for what he is - soulless and heartless. He will be assassinated without his infrastructure.

That's just my humble opinion, anyway. If the US was unified and everyone speaking with one voice, then Hussein might be willing to give it up and go to some remote Island or hang out in Morocco like a rich businessman. But the message Hussein is getting from the US is that we are still weak and disunified, thanks to the idiots in the Democrat Party who are busily begging Hussein to let them wash his feet. With such wormlike creatures groveling for him in front of his general assembly in Baghdad, Hussein feels powerful and predatory because it reinforces his view that the US is in decline, it is contemptible and as foolish as its senators. Saddam's resolve will be the greater for it. If he was feeling fear and doubt before, he won't be afraid with the Democrats prostrating themselves before his throne and swearing fealty to him.

32 posted on 10/01/2002 1:32:41 AM PDT by piasa
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To: piasa
thanks to the idiots in the Democrat Party who are busily begging Hussein to let them wash his feet. With such wormlike creatures groveling for him in front of his general assembly in Baghdad, Hussein feels powerful and predatory because it reinforces his view that the US is in decline, it is contemptible and as foolish as its senators. Saddam's resolve will be the greater for it.

Pegged, bagged, and nailed. You are SO right.

41 posted on 10/01/2002 3:50:43 AM PDT by patriciaruth
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To: piasa
If he was feeling fear and doubt before, he won't be afraid with the Democrats prostrating themselves before his throne and swearing fealty to him.

It's frustrating to see the Dims go to Iraq and behave like the fools we know them to be. However, it really changes nothing significant. If Saddam leaves soon (exile) he might get to live. If not, he's a dead man walking.

Also, if Saddam goes underground, we'll hunt him down and kill him. This is not rocket science.

49 posted on 10/01/2002 5:07:06 AM PDT by toddst
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To: piasa; Dark Wing
Why not offer Saddam a chair at Yale as Professor of Evil?

They're already talking about giving positions to African tyrants who retire from busy despotic careers.

93 posted on 10/01/2002 11:28:39 AM PDT by Thud
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To: piasa
Macchiavelli said if a monarch must choose between being loved and feared, feared is better. I think Hussein's longevity in office makes the point.
101 posted on 10/01/2002 9:18:49 PM PDT by hinckley buzzard
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