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The New Opium War: How U.S. Lost the War on Drugs
newsmax ^ | Sept. 26, 2002 | Charles R. Smith

Posted on 09/30/2002 9:54:11 AM PDT by bat-boy

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1 posted on 09/30/2002 9:54:11 AM PDT by bat-boy
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2 posted on 09/30/2002 9:54:37 AM PDT by Mo1
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To: Mo1
The CIA reportedly noted that if Lotus Eater was released into the poppy fields that several Southeast and Southwest Asian governments would fall.

Just say "NO" to drugs. Bankrupt the CIA.

3 posted on 09/30/2002 9:57:49 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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To: bat-boy
In mid-1880s, the French imported rootstock from America to improve their wine vineyards. Unfortunately, the US root stock continued a louse, which promptly destroyed the French wine industry.

Years later, only after ascertaining the US rootstock contained no louse, was it permitted back into France, to replace their dead vines. Hence, most all French wine is, in reality, American wine.

While this "fungus" may only have an effect on opium poppies, do we know? Lab tests are one thing, field tests another. And can we really afford to find out? Suppose this goes awry? Most 3rd World nations are but 2 or 3 clean shirts away from starvation...

4 posted on 09/30/2002 10:17:26 AM PDT by donozark
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To: donozark
1st para-should read:CONTAINED!
5 posted on 09/30/2002 10:25:05 AM PDT by donozark
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
And I ask of you rascally totalitarians, would it be OK then for folks from Afgahnistan to attack American tobacco feilds with a tobacco killing fungus? Clearly tobacco kills far more people than opium. Would that be OK??
6 posted on 09/30/2002 10:25:25 AM PDT by corkoman
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To: bat-boy
Like the US government is really going to stop the flow of cash which so fixates our politicians and floats our major banks in laundry money.

Passing strange, I'm sure, that Al "COSCO is our friend" Haig and major Maotai Henry Kissinger were on Nixon's Narcotics council and oversaw the CIA's cranking of the Golden Triangle out of China as well as the stopping of flights over Burmese poppy fields as we APPEASED the Chicoms even as our men were dying in ignominy in their dirty war in Viet Nam.

See No Evil, Hear No Evil, Speak no Evil

The drug scourge is a case of SUPPLY, not DEMAND.

No one ever susses out on their own and pays for their first high. It's offered them, pushed on them ... and no one is so desperate for drugs they'll rob or kill for them if they're not readily available in the first place.

The appeasement of China as part of Nixon's so-called "Drug War" was only exacerbated when -- upon the collapsing of the Evil Empire like a cheap umbrella -- Bush didn't even wait for the dust of the Wall to settle before teaming up with the very Soviet agents, particularly in Czechoslovakia, who'd been overseeing the marxist drug offensive against the West.

Having put a "former" Soviet at the elbow of our drug forces and customs agents, are we surprised that the influx of drugs has only increased?

Talk about your useful idiots ... little wonder the profile of our wholly unconstitutional Federal Police force has only grown more Soviet-like subsequently ... black masked, jackbooted, no-knock thugs who even pull in tanks to assist them in the siege and incineration of Americans at Waco?

7 posted on 09/30/2002 10:35:50 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: E. Pluribus Unum
Bankrupt the CIA.

Hear hear.

8 posted on 09/30/2002 10:36:11 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: corkoman
Clearly tobacco kills far more people than opium.

And one reason for that is the way the government and their Interested Party lickboots like George Soros seek to turn addicts into a Sustainable Resource by providing them clean needles and comfy shooting galleries instead of letting them OD in droves to "send a message".

9 posted on 09/30/2002 10:37:38 AM PDT by Askel5
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To: Askel5
"Talk about your useful idiots ... little wonder the profile of our wholly unconstitutional Federal Police force has only grown more Soviet-like subsequently ... black masked, jackbooted, no-knock thugs who even pull in tanks to assist them in the siege and incineration of Americans at Waco?"

None of those Americans were using drugs! I see where you're going with this one. You're down with the jack booted, no-knock thugs as long as they're attacking us law abiding, non-drug users!! So much for your crusade for freedom.

10 posted on 09/30/2002 10:43:48 AM PDT by Destructor
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To: bat-boy
We pay taxes to support these "friendly" governments. We pay taxes to support the "large groups friendly to the U.S.". We pay taxes to pay for the WOD.
11 posted on 09/30/2002 10:47:40 AM PDT by banjo joe
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Understood and agree wholeheartedly with both of your posts. I posted the article to show the hypocracy of our government over the issue.

This is the same government running commercials stating that potheads are funding terrorists.

12 posted on 09/30/2002 10:48:08 AM PDT by bat-boy
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To: donozark
If one type of intoxicant is removed, a different one will replace it. If you want to affect the amount of the use of drugs, you must work on demand, not supply.
13 posted on 09/30/2002 10:51:34 AM PDT by Protagoras
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"This is the same government running commercials stating that potheads are funding terrorists."

But when DA Buush had B-52's right there in Afrganistan with Daisy cutters do you think he had the sense God gave an apple to bomb the sh*t out of them - No way!!!

He cut a deal so that the farmers would have a source of income and not turn on us toop -

This years Afgan crop up over 1,400 %!! What is that nut case and this administration thinking.
14 posted on 09/30/2002 10:55:09 AM PDT by SEGUET
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To: Askel5
In 2001, the U.S. Drug Enforcement Agency concluded that America has more than 100,000 heroin addicts.

Can that be right? All of this nonsense for 100,000 people?

15 posted on 09/30/2002 10:59:08 AM PDT by Wolfie
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To: ThomasJefferson
Me thinks your post 13 was meant for Aske15?
16 posted on 09/30/2002 11:02:39 AM PDT by donozark
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It was meant for anyone who was addressing the eradication of the substance as an answer to the question of how to reduce the use of mind altering substances. If that wasn't you, I apologise for misdirecting.

I say to anyone who is interested, demand is where you must work if you want to decrease usage, not supply. Supply will always expand to demand.

And the particular substance is not what the damand is for. The demand is for mind altering substances. It will always remain. The extent of the demand is the question.

17 posted on 09/30/2002 11:08:58 AM PDT by Protagoras
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To: bat-boy
I don't watch much TV but the one commercial I saw re:"potheads" referenced FARC. The Columbian terrs.

Although article doesn't address issue, and it is unrelated in most ways, Morphine is an opium derivitive. Thousands of cancer/trauma patients dependent on this. Guess if gov wiped out opium it would have to maintain opium fields (as it does pot fields) for medical professionals to prescribe this pain killer?

Anyway, article interests me. Will have to do some reading on this. Always leary of gov plans to alter nature. Recall what MO-Dept. of Conservation did to the fish population when they reintroduced the Otter to Missouri...We now have Otter trapping season...

18 posted on 09/30/2002 11:12:03 AM PDT by donozark
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To: corkoman
And I ask of you rascally totalitarians, would it be OK then for folks from Afgahnistan to attack American tobacco feilds with a tobacco killing fungus? Clearly tobacco kills far more people than opium. Would that be OK??

It would be perfectly okay with me. Probably the only people it would not be okay with is state legislatures that derive the lion's share of their revenues by taxing smokers, who are mostly "the poor," by the way.

19 posted on 09/30/2002 11:12:21 AM PDT by E. Pluribus Unum
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IMHO you cannot launder 500 BILLION dollars PER YEAR without the full knowledge and cooperation of the international banking institutions and the United States government.

Remember, this is the same government that could tell us everything about the 9/11 terrorists within what, 2 days. This is the same government that can trace laundered money to multiple terrorist organizations. Yet they cannot stop 500 billion dollars of drug money from being laundered.

If you have the time, read this article and the series of articles by Catherine Austin Fitts, who is a former Assistant Secretary of the Federal Housing Commissioner under Bush 1, a former managing director and member of the board of directors of Dillon Read & Co, Inc. She is currently the president of an investment advisory firm Solari, Inc,. It will open your eyes on just what is going on.

http://www.mapinc.org/drugnews/v02/n346/a03.html?1389

20 posted on 09/30/2002 11:13:44 AM PDT by bat-boy
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