[Mike Darancette]

Facts will not stop them.

[dfwgator]

Game, set, and match.

[BlueLancer]

Bookmarked for use in arguments with eco-nuts.

[Free the USA]

http://www.freerepublic.com/perl/bump-list

[Sinner6]

Anyone who is really intrested in the actual state of the world should read The Skeptical Environmentalist by Bjorn Lomborg.

[r9etb]

The "humans-bad" response to this has already been articulated by saying that "human activity could be that little nudge that pushes us over the edge...."

However, if it's true that solar output and the Earth's orbit are the predominant factors (how could they not be?), then human activity would at most change the time of onset of major climactic change, and only by a percent or two.

[daviddennis]

Interesting story; I appreciate your bringing this to our attention.

But really, it shouldn't have been that much of a surprise:

The advancing hypothesis is that orbital and solar variability are the most significant drivers of climate, and that greenhouse gases, while important for maintaining the stability of climate and moderating external forcing, are not responsible for most climate variability. This hypothesis encompasses all observed climate change data.

In view of the often repeated fact that an hour's worth of the solar energy hitting our planet could provide us with all the energy we need, this shouldn't surprise anyone. Almost all the energy used on this planet comes from the sun's rays; a puny percentage comes from the burning of fuels; so it's a truly human conceit to think the latter's going to make more than a tiny difference to the temperature of Planet Earth.

Curious, no?

D

[jpl]

Facts will not stop them.

You're correct. A giant like Milutin Milankovitch doesn't stand a chance against the political pygmies of modern science.

[tophat9000]

bump

[Willie Green]

Facts will not stop them.

Thank-you for posting this excellent article.

However, with all the stuff that's ever been published about climate change, I'm still left with one very puzzling question: Just what are the approximate correlation factors???

Are we talking 80% natural fluctuation and 20% man-made????
Or is it 99.44% natural and 0.56% man-made???

[ZULU]

When reason and logic on the one hand, and emotion and propaganda on the other, collide in the atrophied minds of leftwing ideologues, reason and logic never win out, even in the face of overwhelming logic.

Liberalism is living proof that Democracy is a very bad form of government. That's why the Founding Fathers in their wisdom, created a Republic. The Democrats have succeeded in demolishing that Republic and replacing it with a liberal, democratic monstrosity.

[S.O.S121.500]

:"Facts will not stop them.":

Too many big words and complex ideas for dummycraps to understand.

[Constitutionalist Conservative]

This article contains many sound-bite gems. Here's one of my faves:

If people understand the solar/orbital hypothesis, the world will not be lulled into thinking that the problems associated with global climate change will all go away if the people of the United States transfer their wealth to third world countries.

[Mad Dawgg]

Bumping for dollars

[Straight Vermonter]

Let's not start bringing science into this!

[SunkenCiv]

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