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THE END OF THE CLIMATE DEBATE?
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| 9/28/02
| Lee C. Gerhard
Posted on 09/26/2002 9:56:06 AM PDT by Mike Darancette
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Facts will not stop them.
To: Mike Darancette
Game, set, and match.
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posted on
09/26/2002 9:58:23 AM PDT
by
dfwgator
To: Mike Darancette; dighton
Bookmarked for use in arguments with eco-nuts.
To: *Global Warming Hoax; Ernest_at_the_Beach
To: Free the USA
Bumpers for bookmarkers
prisoner6
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posted on
09/26/2002 10:06:05 AM PDT
by
prisoner6
To: BlueLancer
And, so long to all those Canadian jobs.
To: Mike Darancette
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posted on
09/26/2002 10:07:27 AM PDT
by
Sinner6
To: Mike Darancette
The "humans-bad" response to this has already been articulated by saying that "human activity could be that little nudge that pushes us over the edge...."
However, if it's true that solar output and the Earth's orbit are the predominant factors (how could they not be?), then human activity would at most change the time of onset of major climactic change, and only by a percent or two.
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posted on
09/26/2002 10:11:54 AM PDT
by
r9etb
To: Mike Darancette
Interesting story; I appreciate your bringing this to our attention.
But really, it shouldn't have been that much of a surprise:
The advancing hypothesis is that orbital and solar variability are the most significant drivers of climate, and that greenhouse gases, while important for maintaining the stability of climate and moderating external forcing, are not responsible for most climate variability. This hypothesis encompasses all observed climate change data.
In view of the often repeated fact that an hour's worth of the solar energy hitting our planet could provide us with all the energy we need, this shouldn't surprise anyone. Almost all the energy used on this planet comes from the sun's rays; a puny percentage comes from the burning of fuels; so it's a truly human conceit to think the latter's going to make more than a tiny difference to the temperature of Planet Earth.
Curious, no?
D
To: Mike Darancette
Facts will not stop them. You're correct. A giant like Milutin Milankovitch doesn't stand a chance against the political pygmies of modern science.
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posted on
09/26/2002 10:16:00 AM PDT
by
jpl
To: Mike Darancette
bump
To: jpl
Speaking of political pygmies of modern science, has anyone figured out Algore's Jessie James remark the other day ?
To: Mike Darancette
Facts will not stop them.Thank-you for posting this excellent article.
However, with all the stuff that's ever been published about climate change, I'm still left with one very puzzling question: Just what are the approximate correlation factors???
Are we talking 80% natural fluctuation and 20% man-made????
Or is it 99.44% natural and 0.56% man-made???
To: Mike Darancette
When reason and logic on the one hand, and emotion and propaganda on the other, collide in the atrophied minds of leftwing ideologues, reason and logic never win out, even in the face of overwhelming logic.
Liberalism is living proof that Democracy is a very bad form of government. That's why the Founding Fathers in their wisdom, created a Republic. The Democrats have succeeded in demolishing that Republic and replacing it with a liberal, democratic monstrosity.
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posted on
09/26/2002 10:25:50 AM PDT
by
ZULU
To: Willie Green
Wel, I've always thought that since the climate has swung from much hotter to MUCH colder in the last 100,000 years, man doesn't have much to do with it at all.
What, Cro-Magnon man was lighting too many campfires?
To: Mike Darancette
:"Facts will not stop them.":Too many big words and complex ideas for dummycraps to understand.
To: Willie Green
Or is it 99.44% natural and 0.56% man-made??? Yep. Man-made contributions are within the error limits which makes them effectively zero.
To: chaosagent
It was capitalism. 100,000 years of capitalism.
To: balrog666
Man-made contributions are within the error limits which makes them effectively zero.That's always been my presumption,
yet I've never seen the simple statistics presented...
Neither supporting that presumption, nor refuting it.
Nada. One way or the other.
To: Willie Green
look for this whole tired global warming stuff to be recycled back around in about 8 years when Solar Sunspot Cycle 24 starts to heat things up again.
Sheeesh
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posted on
09/26/2002 11:26:29 AM PDT
by
Strident
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