[two23]

I'm sick of it too...I am not an immigrant--I was born here.
There has never been, in our history, a mass immigration of foreigners that did not result in poverty, disease, increased crime, unemployment and the ruination of urban areas. Times have changed. We need to take a more realistic look at mass immigration, especially of the illegal sort.
We're all paying for it, and "cheap labor" isn't worth it.

[Tancredo Fan]

This "nation of immigrants" baloney is just that. The vast majority of Americans are not immigrants. They were born here.

From Craig Nelsen:

The inference that "We are a nation of immigrants and, therefore, we must not limit immigration" is a classic example of CIRCULAR ARGUMENT.

What it says is this: Because we are a nation of immigrants, we have to allow for massive immigration which, in turn, makes us a nation of immigrants. Hence its circularity.

Circular arguments are invalid in the logical sense by virtue of HOW they are structured and not WHAT do they mean. They lead to a faulty (and, therefore, useless) reasoning in which the thesis (the very thing which is to be proved) is used as a premise in its proof.

The "nation of immigrants" drivel is rather idiotic and totally false. I don't know why people keep repeating it.

[reagent]

Just look at the new antibiotic-resistant strain of TB that is being brought north from Mexico. These people, largely HIV carriers, cannot finish a course of government-supplied antibiotics to effectively kill the bacteria.

[dixie sass]

You and I can sit in our comfortable apartments or homes and make that statement - try telling that to the farmer who needs cheap labor to bring in his crops or the clothes manufacture in LA or ...

These people will tell you that they need the cheap labor because they will be unable to bring in their crops or sell their goods at a reasonable price. They will tell you that they can't hire Americans because they don't want to make low wages.