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To: two23
This "nation of immigrants" baloney is just that. The vast majority of Americans are not immigrants. They were born here.

From Craig Nelsen:

The inference that "We are a nation of immigrants and, therefore, we must not limit immigration" is a classic example of CIRCULAR ARGUMENT.

What it says is this: Because we are a nation of immigrants, we have to allow for massive immigration which, in turn, makes us a nation of immigrants. Hence its circularity.

Circular arguments are invalid in the logical sense by virtue of HOW they are structured and not WHAT do they mean. They lead to a faulty (and, therefore, useless) reasoning in which the thesis (the very thing which is to be proved) is used as a premise in its proof.

The "nation of immigrants" drivel is rather idiotic and totally false. I don't know why people keep repeating it.

14 posted on 09/26/2002 9:18:43 AM PDT by Tancredo Fan
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To: Tancredo Fan
EVERY nation is a nation of immigrants. It just depends on where you draw the 'here before' line. England is a nation of Immigrants, France is a nation of Immigrants, Saudi is a nation of immigrants...EVERY nation is a nation of immigrants.
18 posted on 09/26/2002 9:21:46 AM PDT by Black Agnes
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To: Tancredo Fan
I am so disappointed that the highest majority of Americans want a visable solution to the flow of illegals, but our leaders are not listening. In fact, the closer to elections, the more they seem to pander.
31 posted on 09/26/2002 9:33:18 AM PDT by two23
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To: Tancredo Fan
The "nation of immigrants" drivel is rather idiotic and totally false. I don't know why people keep repeating it.

Because they are misguided, or they have an agenda.

80 posted on 09/26/2002 12:24:06 PM PDT by FreedomFriend
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