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Don't Start the Second Gulf War
National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

Posted on 09/24/2002 11:51:53 AM PDT by Protagoras

Don’t Start the Second Gulf War
The case against war with Iraq.

By Doug Bandow
August 12, 2002, 9:00 a.m.

President George W. Bush says that he hasn't made up his mind about "any of our policies in regard to Iraq," but he obviously has. To not attack after spending months talking about the need for regime change is inconceivable. Unfortunately, war is not likely to be the simple and certain procedure that he and many others seem to think.

Lots of arguments have been offered on behalf of striking Baghdad that are not reasons at all. For instance, that Saddam Hussein is an evil man who has brutalized his own people.

Certainly true. But the world is full of brutal regimes that have murdered their own people. Indeed, Washington ally Turkey's treatment of its Kurds is scarcely more gentle than Iraq's Kurdish policies.

Moreover, the U.S. warmly supports the royal kleptocracy next door in Saudi Arabia, fully as totalitarian, if not quite as violent, as Saddam's government. Any non-Muslim and most women would probably prefer living in Iraq.

Also cited is Baghdad's conquest of Kuwait a dozen years ago. It is a bit late to drag that out as a justification for invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam. He is far weaker today and has remained firmly contained.

Richard Butler, former head of the U.N. Commission on Iraq, complained to the Senate Foreign Relations that Iraq had violated international law by tossing out arms inspectors. In fact, there are often as many reasons to flout as to obey U.N. rules. Washington shouldn't go to war in some abstract pursuit of "international law."

Slightly more plausible, at least, is the argument that creating a democratic system in Iraq would provide a useful model for the rest of the Mideast. But that presupposes democracy can be easily planted, and that it can survive once the U.S. departs.

Iraq suffers from significant internal stresses. Convenient professions of unity in pursuit of democracy from an opposition once dismissed by Mideast special envoy and retired Gen. Anthony Zinni as "silk-suited, Rolex-wearing guys in London" offer little comfort and are likely to last no longer than have similar promises in Afghanistan.

Also problematic are Kurdish demands for autonomy and Shiite Muslim resistance to the central government. One defense official told the Washington Post: "I think it is almost a certainty that we'd wind up doing a campaign against the Kurds and Shiites." Wouldn't that be pretty? <

There are external threats as well. Particularly worrisome would be covert and possibly overt action by Iran, with which Baghdad fought a decade-long war and which might see intervention against a weakened Iraq as an antidote to serious political unrest at home.

Indeed, the U.S. backed Baghdad in its conflict with Iran and decided not to depose Saddam in 1991, in part out of fear of Iranian aggression throughout the Gulf should Iraq no longer provide a blocking role. Keeping the Iraqi Humpty Dumpty together after a war might not be easy.

Moreover, while Americans might see America's war on Iraq as a war for democracy, most Arabs would likely see it as a war for Washington. If the U.S. deposes Saddam, but leaves in place friendly but despotic regimes elsewhere — such as Egypt, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia — few Arabs would take America's democracy rhetoric seriously. Nor should they. Yet to go to war against everyone, including presumably Iran, Syria, and maybe others, would have incalculable consequences.

Saddam's complicity in September 11 would present a good argument for devastating retaliation for an act of war, but there's no evidence that he was involved. All that exists is a disputed meeting, which might not have occurred, in the Czech Republic between hijacker Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi official.

Certainly Saddam shed no tears over the thousands who died on that tragic day, but he has never been known to promote groups which he does not control. In contrast to Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein is no Muslim fanatic looking forward to his heavenly rewards; moreover, he heads a government and nation against which retaliation is simple.

Probably the best, at least the most fearsome, argument for overthrowing Saddam is the prospect of Baghdad developing weapons of mass destruction. Yet if nonproliferation should be enforced by war, Washington will be very busy in the coming years.

The problem is not just countries like Iran and North Korea, which seem to have or have had serious interest in developing atomic weapons. It is China, which could use them in any conflict with the U.S. over, say, Taiwan. And India, Pakistan, and Russia, which face unpredictable nationalist and theological currents, enjoy governments of varying instability, and offer uncertain security over technical know-how as well as weapons.

Potentially most dangerous is Pakistan's arsenal. The government of Pervez Musharraf is none too steady; Islamabad long supported the Taliban and its military and intelligence forces almost certainly contain al Qaeda sympathizers. It is easy to imagine nuclear technology falling into terrorist hands.

An Iraqi nuclear capability seems less frightening in comparison. Saddam would not use them against America, since to do so would guarantee his incineration. Israel possesses a similarly overbearing deterrent.

Would Baghdad turn atomic weapons over to al Qaeda or similarly motivated terrorists? Not likely.

First, it would be extraordinary for Saddam to give up a technology purchased at such a high price. Second, Baghdad would be the immediate suspect and likely target of retaliation should any terrorist deploy nuclear weapons, and Saddam knows this.

Third, Saddam would be risking his own life. Al Qaeda holds secular Arab dictators in contempt and would not be above attempting to destroy them as well as America.

Of course, the world would be a better place without Saddam's dictatorship. But there are a lot of regimes that should, and eventually will, end up in history's dustbin. That's not a good reason to initiate war against a state which poses no direct, ongoing threat.

Especially since war often creates unpredictable consequences. Without domestic opposition military forces to do America's dirty work, Washington will have to bear most of the burden. The task will be more difficult and expensive without European support and Saudi staging grounds.

If Iraq's forces don't quickly crumble, the U.S. might find itself involved in urban conflict that will be costly in human and political terms. If Baghdad possesses any weapons of mass destruction, Saddam will have an incentive to use them — against America, Israel, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia — since Washington would be dedicated to his overthrow.

Further, the U.S. would be sloshing gasoline over a combustible political situation in friendly but undemocratic Arab regimes stretching from North Africa to Southeast Asia. Israelis and Palestinians are at war, America continues to fight Taliban and al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan as the pro-western government teeters on chaos, fundamentalist Muslims rule western Pakistan, and Muslim extremists are active a dozen other countries. Yet the administration wants to invade Iraq. Riots in Egypt, a fundamentalist rising in Pakistan, a spurt of sectarian violence in Indonesia, and who knows what else could pose a high price for any success in Iraq.

War is a serious business. Making war on a country which does not threaten the U.S. is particularly serious. Even if the optimists who think a campaign against Iraq would be easy are right, and we can only hope they are, war should be a last resort. As House Majority Leader Richard Armey warned, an unprovoked attack "would not be consistent with what we have been as a nation or what we should be as a nation."

There's certainly no hurry to go to war. Nothing is different today from September 10, 2001, or any time since Iraq was ousted from Kuwait. Observes Jim Cornette, formerly an expert in biological warfare with the Air Force: "We've bottled [Saddam] up for 11 years, so we're doing okay."

There are times when Washington has no choice but to fight. Iraq is not such a place and now is not such a time.

— Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and a former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; cato; onemontholdarticle; saddam; war
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To: Chad Fairbanks
I was just kidding about the 'heathen idol-worshipper' thing... get a grip.

The sarcasm tag is our friend. Especially for the sarcasm-impared.

Heck, I knew it was in jest, satire even...

681 posted on 09/25/2002 7:37:34 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
If someone can't tell that I'm being sarcastic or engaging in satire, or just kidding around, well it's THEIR problem, not mine :0)
682 posted on 09/25/2002 7:39:58 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Invading and ousting a sitting government just because "we think" they might attack us is a shaky and ambigious doctrine for which to place the safety of our nation and way of life.

Well we could wait for a smoking gun, of course that could be a mushroom cloud. To me the riskiest thing to do is nothing.

683 posted on 09/25/2002 7:43:00 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
666 posted on 9/25/02 10:12 PM Eastern by Chancellor Palpatine

The darkside is strong in this one.

684 posted on 09/25/2002 7:43:39 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: rintense
Of course Iraq is a threat to USA and to others in their vicinity. Reports are coming out stating that terrorists have sought sanctuary in precisely that country and are being armed by the mandman.
685 posted on 09/25/2002 7:45:16 PM PDT by Hila
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To: dubyaismypresident
I'm embracing the dark side. Its mine.
686 posted on 09/25/2002 7:49:31 PM PDT by Chancellor Palpatine
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To: Chancellor Palpatine
Good... that leaves the Frosted Side for me, then...

;0)
687 posted on 09/25/2002 8:11:33 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks

688 posted on 09/25/2002 8:31:53 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
The Fork is strong in this one...
689 posted on 09/25/2002 8:34:17 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
And by some strange coincidence there are 5 shredded wheats on the spoon....
690 posted on 09/25/2002 8:35:38 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
Ooh... so that means it's part of that Vast Bush-Bot Conspiracy (VBBC), a theory I believe is prevalent among many of our libertarian brethren...
691 posted on 09/25/2002 8:38:05 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: Chad Fairbanks
Yes... Post Cereals is part of the VBBC.

Frito-Lay isn't part of the VBBC....they couldn't afford to lose a munchie boycott by the Liberaltarians.

692 posted on 09/25/2002 8:39:58 PM PDT by NeoCaveman
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To: dubyaismypresident
lol...
693 posted on 09/25/2002 8:45:49 PM PDT by Chad Fairbanks
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To: rightwing2
Oh dear, you poor baby. Now, I can't do math ? I took far less liberties with rounding off, than you did. But I see that when you do something wrong, that's okay. You learn that in kindergarten ? that's okay, you'll learn rounding off, when you are a " big boy " and finally get into first grade.

A stopped clock may be right twice a day ; you never are.

You wouldn't be capable of understanding what Conservatism is, if your mommy AND your daddy explained it to you ; but, do get them to try .

You're on the wrong side of this one. It's you and Jane Fonda and Ed Asner, and little Tommy Dashole, and all of the rest of the " I HATE AMERICA " crowd. Doesn't that just make you feel all warm & fuzzy ? It should.

You're quite wrong ( no surprise there ) , in your claim re the Panama Canal and how we can do something about it " now ". That's okay, I understand, you missed your nap today and your blankie has gone missing.

tsk, tsk, tsk ... pathetic , would be a kind assessment, of what you are.

694 posted on 09/25/2002 9:33:24 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: rightwing2
Oh really ? " NUTS " ?

If you and those, whom you are agreeing with, have decided that I am " nuts ", I'd rather be " NUTS ", than what you all are. LOL

695 posted on 09/25/2002 9:35:12 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: Amelia
Funny, I thought that last week you said you'd studied it quite a bit, and while you usually disagreed with Bush, you thought he totally right about Iraq?

So you noticed this amazing transformation too, did you?

These kids couldn't sound any more like Democrats if they practiced for a year.

696 posted on 09/25/2002 10:13:27 PM PDT by DaughterOfAnIwoJimaVet
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To: nopardons
Oh really ? " NUTS " ?

Nuts is right! LOL! Sorry, your not worth my time. I'm tired of lowering myself to your level.
697 posted on 09/26/2002 7:35:42 AM PDT by rightwing2
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To: jwalsh07; Chancellor Palpatine; FreedominJesusChrist; Scholastic; ex-snook; Askel5; ...
There was no evidence linking Khadafy and his family to the bombing. None. Reagan didn't need evidence that stood up in a court of law, he knew where the danger was. So does Bush. Try to be consistent at least. Either Reagan and Bush are wrong to strike preemptively at the enemy or they are both wrong. Honest debate requires honesty.

Well good I’m glad you at least agree with that statement. I have been completely honest and consistent in my arguments. Reagan’s attack against Libya was not a pre-emptive unprovoked attack as Bush’s would be in Iraq. Reagan’s bombing of Tripoli was in response to a terrorist attack regardless of whether such evidence would hold up in a court of law. Presidents from Thomas Jefferson (with the Barbary pirates) to the present have responded with such reprisals to terrorist attacks and it is completely consistent with the President’s war powers under the Constitution. Iraq on the other hand is different because Bush has not raised Iraq’s sponsorship of any terrorist attacks against the US for which he was unable to find any evidence) as a justification for war.

Furthermore, Iraq has invaded no country and does not pose a threat to anyone but Kuwait and Israel. Accordingly, for the US to attack Iraq would be entirely unprovoked and accordingly illegal under customary international law. An attack on Iraq would be pre-emptive in the sense that one of the rationales that the President has raised is that Iraq is on the verge of developing nukes and will use them against US cities as soon as he succeeds, a conclusion which is not supported by the last DECLASSIFIED CIA Report on the Ballistic Missile Threat published in 2001.
698 posted on 09/26/2002 7:50:52 AM PDT by rightwing2
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To: rightwing2
Iraq on the other hand is different because Bush has not raised Iraq’s sponsorship of any terrorist attacks against the US for which he was unable to find any evidence) as a justification for war.

Do you stand by this statement in light of the remarks by Condi Rice on PBS last night regarding Iraqi training of al Qaida and evidence of the Iraqis providing al Qaida with chemical weapons?

699 posted on 09/26/2002 7:57:41 AM PDT by Wordsmith
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To: CWOJackson; sinkspur; Chancellor Palpatine; FreedominJesusChrist; Mudboy Slim
Yes sink, he only reposted to defend his personal reputation as a patriotic veteran who loves America. Any patriotic American working at the Pentagon would go on an open internet site and claim the President is "falsifying evidence" against Iraq, claim that Iraq is posses no threat to us in direction contridiction to the President, then when pressed to qualify his claims site his access to Joint Chiefs of Staff level classified reports on other nations. Yes, this is indeed the actions of a patriotic American defending themselves.

Well, it looks like FR's premier American-hating cockroach has returned with brand new lying accusations about me. Care to support those new lying accusations with evidence this time? No I thought not. Firstly, I never claimed that the President was falsifying evidence against Iraq. Secondly, I clarified my original statement that he was hyping up the alleged threat from Iraq by saying that was I was referring to was his utilization of old evidence about Iraq being close to getting nukes from UN weapons inspectors dated from 1991 before these weapons inspectors completely dismantled Saddam's nuke R&D capability. This fact is corroberated by Newsmax.com in a a 9/11/02 article. While I did make the mistake of saying I had access to class reports in response to your incessant goadings an error for which I have since apologized, I never once cited them in support of my statements.

In fact, I took pains to point out that all of my info on Iran and Iraq came from unclassified and declassified open sources!!! I never disclosed one iota of classified information something you knew from the start but continued to lie and say that I did anyway. As I said, you have never been one to let the facts get in the way of your bombastic Commie-smear tactics, have you? Furthermore, I have never read any classified material on Iran and Iraq because those two countries have never been of particular interest to me before this whole unprovoked attack rhetoric began. My focus areas are the Russian Federation, the PRC and the DPRK, which pose the greatest threats to America's national security.
700 posted on 09/26/2002 8:05:12 AM PDT by rightwing2
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