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Don't Start the Second Gulf War
National Review Online ^ | 8-12-02 | Doug Bandow

Posted on 09/24/2002 11:51:53 AM PDT by Protagoras

Don’t Start the Second Gulf War
The case against war with Iraq.

By Doug Bandow
August 12, 2002, 9:00 a.m.

President George W. Bush says that he hasn't made up his mind about "any of our policies in regard to Iraq," but he obviously has. To not attack after spending months talking about the need for regime change is inconceivable. Unfortunately, war is not likely to be the simple and certain procedure that he and many others seem to think.

Lots of arguments have been offered on behalf of striking Baghdad that are not reasons at all. For instance, that Saddam Hussein is an evil man who has brutalized his own people.

Certainly true. But the world is full of brutal regimes that have murdered their own people. Indeed, Washington ally Turkey's treatment of its Kurds is scarcely more gentle than Iraq's Kurdish policies.

Moreover, the U.S. warmly supports the royal kleptocracy next door in Saudi Arabia, fully as totalitarian, if not quite as violent, as Saddam's government. Any non-Muslim and most women would probably prefer living in Iraq.

Also cited is Baghdad's conquest of Kuwait a dozen years ago. It is a bit late to drag that out as a justification for invading Iraq and overthrowing Saddam. He is far weaker today and has remained firmly contained.

Richard Butler, former head of the U.N. Commission on Iraq, complained to the Senate Foreign Relations that Iraq had violated international law by tossing out arms inspectors. In fact, there are often as many reasons to flout as to obey U.N. rules. Washington shouldn't go to war in some abstract pursuit of "international law."

Slightly more plausible, at least, is the argument that creating a democratic system in Iraq would provide a useful model for the rest of the Mideast. But that presupposes democracy can be easily planted, and that it can survive once the U.S. departs.

Iraq suffers from significant internal stresses. Convenient professions of unity in pursuit of democracy from an opposition once dismissed by Mideast special envoy and retired Gen. Anthony Zinni as "silk-suited, Rolex-wearing guys in London" offer little comfort and are likely to last no longer than have similar promises in Afghanistan.

Also problematic are Kurdish demands for autonomy and Shiite Muslim resistance to the central government. One defense official told the Washington Post: "I think it is almost a certainty that we'd wind up doing a campaign against the Kurds and Shiites." Wouldn't that be pretty? <

There are external threats as well. Particularly worrisome would be covert and possibly overt action by Iran, with which Baghdad fought a decade-long war and which might see intervention against a weakened Iraq as an antidote to serious political unrest at home.

Indeed, the U.S. backed Baghdad in its conflict with Iran and decided not to depose Saddam in 1991, in part out of fear of Iranian aggression throughout the Gulf should Iraq no longer provide a blocking role. Keeping the Iraqi Humpty Dumpty together after a war might not be easy.

Moreover, while Americans might see America's war on Iraq as a war for democracy, most Arabs would likely see it as a war for Washington. If the U.S. deposes Saddam, but leaves in place friendly but despotic regimes elsewhere — such as Egypt, Pakistan, and Saudi Arabia — few Arabs would take America's democracy rhetoric seriously. Nor should they. Yet to go to war against everyone, including presumably Iran, Syria, and maybe others, would have incalculable consequences.

Saddam's complicity in September 11 would present a good argument for devastating retaliation for an act of war, but there's no evidence that he was involved. All that exists is a disputed meeting, which might not have occurred, in the Czech Republic between hijacker Mohammed Atta and an Iraqi official.

Certainly Saddam shed no tears over the thousands who died on that tragic day, but he has never been known to promote groups which he does not control. In contrast to Osama bin Laden, Saddam Hussein is no Muslim fanatic looking forward to his heavenly rewards; moreover, he heads a government and nation against which retaliation is simple.

Probably the best, at least the most fearsome, argument for overthrowing Saddam is the prospect of Baghdad developing weapons of mass destruction. Yet if nonproliferation should be enforced by war, Washington will be very busy in the coming years.

The problem is not just countries like Iran and North Korea, which seem to have or have had serious interest in developing atomic weapons. It is China, which could use them in any conflict with the U.S. over, say, Taiwan. And India, Pakistan, and Russia, which face unpredictable nationalist and theological currents, enjoy governments of varying instability, and offer uncertain security over technical know-how as well as weapons.

Potentially most dangerous is Pakistan's arsenal. The government of Pervez Musharraf is none too steady; Islamabad long supported the Taliban and its military and intelligence forces almost certainly contain al Qaeda sympathizers. It is easy to imagine nuclear technology falling into terrorist hands.

An Iraqi nuclear capability seems less frightening in comparison. Saddam would not use them against America, since to do so would guarantee his incineration. Israel possesses a similarly overbearing deterrent.

Would Baghdad turn atomic weapons over to al Qaeda or similarly motivated terrorists? Not likely.

First, it would be extraordinary for Saddam to give up a technology purchased at such a high price. Second, Baghdad would be the immediate suspect and likely target of retaliation should any terrorist deploy nuclear weapons, and Saddam knows this.

Third, Saddam would be risking his own life. Al Qaeda holds secular Arab dictators in contempt and would not be above attempting to destroy them as well as America.

Of course, the world would be a better place without Saddam's dictatorship. But there are a lot of regimes that should, and eventually will, end up in history's dustbin. That's not a good reason to initiate war against a state which poses no direct, ongoing threat.

Especially since war often creates unpredictable consequences. Without domestic opposition military forces to do America's dirty work, Washington will have to bear most of the burden. The task will be more difficult and expensive without European support and Saudi staging grounds.

If Iraq's forces don't quickly crumble, the U.S. might find itself involved in urban conflict that will be costly in human and political terms. If Baghdad possesses any weapons of mass destruction, Saddam will have an incentive to use them — against America, Israel, Kuwait, and Saudi Arabia — since Washington would be dedicated to his overthrow.

Further, the U.S. would be sloshing gasoline over a combustible political situation in friendly but undemocratic Arab regimes stretching from North Africa to Southeast Asia. Israelis and Palestinians are at war, America continues to fight Taliban and al Qaeda forces in Afghanistan as the pro-western government teeters on chaos, fundamentalist Muslims rule western Pakistan, and Muslim extremists are active a dozen other countries. Yet the administration wants to invade Iraq. Riots in Egypt, a fundamentalist rising in Pakistan, a spurt of sectarian violence in Indonesia, and who knows what else could pose a high price for any success in Iraq.

War is a serious business. Making war on a country which does not threaten the U.S. is particularly serious. Even if the optimists who think a campaign against Iraq would be easy are right, and we can only hope they are, war should be a last resort. As House Majority Leader Richard Armey warned, an unprovoked attack "would not be consistent with what we have been as a nation or what we should be as a nation."

There's certainly no hurry to go to war. Nothing is different today from September 10, 2001, or any time since Iraq was ousted from Kuwait. Observes Jim Cornette, formerly an expert in biological warfare with the Air Force: "We've bottled [Saddam] up for 11 years, so we're doing okay."

There are times when Washington has no choice but to fight. Iraq is not such a place and now is not such a time.

— Doug Bandow is a senior fellow at the Cato Institute and a former Special Assistant to President Ronald Reagan.


TOPICS: Editorial; News/Current Events
KEYWORDS: bush; cato; onemontholdarticle; saddam; war
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To: St.Chuck
When the USA began sending " advisors ", under JFK, to Nam, the anti-war movemnet was a tiny group of Commies/ Socialists/ Ban the Bombers / anti-war warriors, who had been around during WW II and Korea and the Cuban Missle Crisis. The more they engaged, the louder they became, the more publicity they got, and the more LBJ micromanaged ( with McNanmara, et al ) and made a mess of things, the more adherents they attractted. Those, who went over to their side, gave aid and comfort to our enemies, as well as to those they banded with. Some people, call them what you will, are attracted to numbers ... NOT positions.

That is the problem with supposed Conservatives ( and this includes FREEPERS and ex administration GOPers , retired generals, etc. )agreeing with the likes of Asner, Fonda, Gore ( who has flip- flopped now, so many times, on this matter, that he looks like a wooden puzzle piece ), etc.

541 posted on 09/24/2002 10:28:43 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: COB1
They do get testy when out classed don't they? LOL
542 posted on 09/24/2002 10:30:27 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: nopardons
NP, I've read this whole thread, and I've got one thing to say to these anti-war idiots:



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543 posted on 09/24/2002 10:33:21 PM PDT by COB1
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To: COB1
Yep; but didn't you know that FreedominJesusChrist claims that posting a " 5 " is overdone and juvenile ? Poor widdle baby doesn't like it. LOL
544 posted on 09/24/2002 10:36:30 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: fire_eye
By spreading their vicious, poisonous Weltanschauung around the world, and finally by destroying our buildings, the *infrastructure* of Islamic fundamentalism has forfeited its right to coexist with our Empire...

Yes, it is important to point out that it is about empire. It's also useful to be aware of the price maintaining an empire has. The more powerful the empire, the more opportunity for resentment. The more heavy-handed one becomes in dealing with these resentments, the more intense the resentment becomes. It's very taxing to be emperor.

545 posted on 09/24/2002 10:37:35 PM PDT by St.Chuck
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To: Texasforever; nopardons
The problem is, Texas, that these people go to their regular Web site, like Cato, to be wound up in the morning and get their talking points for the day.
When some facts are thrown at them that weren't covered in the talking points, it ruins their whole day.
Then they stomp their feet and pout!
546 posted on 09/24/2002 10:38:16 PM PDT by COB1
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To: COB1
Thank you, thank you ... b-l-u-s-h.
547 posted on 09/24/2002 10:40:34 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: ovrtaxt
Your barin " overtaxt ", dear ? Can't handle rational, well reasoned debate ? Difficulty comprehending factual information ? Pity that.
548 posted on 09/24/2002 10:42:05 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
"FreedominJesusChrist claims that posting a " 5 " is overdone and juvenile ?"

And how many times is this paragon of intelligence, FJC, going to let us call him a fifth columnist?
Four......ten.......twenty?
I sure hope he lets us know so I can start counting!
I would sure hate to irritate him!

549 posted on 09/24/2002 10:43:35 PM PDT by COB1
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To: COB1
What can you expect, from people who must be spoonfed everything, or else they couldn't post ?
550 posted on 09/24/2002 10:44:36 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
barin = brain
551 posted on 09/24/2002 10:45:01 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: COB1
It's a 20 year old she and she hasn't stopped stomping her feet long enough to aprise us of the number. LOL
552 posted on 09/24/2002 10:46:11 PM PDT by nopardons
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To: nopardons
I think you've succeeded in stomping out this blaze, np.
I'm going to put mine to bed.

Hugs to you, dear friend.

553 posted on 09/24/2002 10:48:16 PM PDT by COB1
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To: rintense
This is where the article is completely wrong. Iraq is a threat to not just the US, but the entire world. I hope the thought isn't so myopic to believe that because he doesn't have ICBMs, that he isn't a threat to us... he will get them. And he will use them.

Question: Which is a bigger threat to the USA and the rest of the world -- Iraq or China? State your answer in 500 words or less.

Helpful Hint: The correct answer to the above question is China. And it is only 100 times more of a threat RIGHT NOW than Iraq could ever, ever be.

The author of this article has an excellent point - Saddam is totally and completely secular. He is more of a Don Corleone (sp?) than an Osama Bin Laden or even an Adolph Hitler. In other words, he's just a bully; yet a bully who's very interested in self preservation.

There are about 10 or 20 countries I would love for us to wipe-out above and beyond Iraq, including (but limited to) Cuba, North Korea, and France. I would also include the psuedo country of Palestine, just because I'm so sick of their whiny little behinds.

You heard it here first: there will be no attack against Iraq, unless Saddam forgets his table manners and does something completely stupid...it could happen...

554 posted on 09/24/2002 10:48:43 PM PDT by Ronzo
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To: FreedominJesusChrist
Some people here are war-hawk meatheads and wouldn't know how to logically problem solve, if they were given the opportunity.

That is probably the most beautiful statement I've seen today :-)

555 posted on 09/24/2002 10:54:22 PM PDT by realpatriot71
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To: nopardons
I was only agreeing with you,you said to me that W.C.was a jerk and is a jerk.I confirmed my preexisting knowledge of information that YOU gave me.Then you start shrieking at me for repeating and agreeing with what you said.You are acting like the devil when confronted with truth,or an ox who is being gored.Did I accidentally say something that worried you?I'll have to go back and reread my comments.
556 posted on 09/24/2002 10:55:15 PM PDT by saradippity
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To: Ronzo
Question: Which is a bigger threat to the USA and the rest of the world -- Iraq or China? State your answer in 500 words or less.

Iraq. China is too busy making money from us to be a threat. This insane notion that because we do not go to war with China or other dictatorships is a transparent attempt to not go to war under any circumstance. Why Iraq? Because we have been in a state of war since the start of the Gulf war. They have continually breached the cease-fire agreement and are rebuilding both their conventional forces and WMD. So take your straw men back to Ramsey Clark and try again.

557 posted on 09/24/2002 10:55:43 PM PDT by Texasforever
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To: stuartcr
I would suggest that you ask those living under the Taliban if they would rather be dead.

I'd suggest you go back and review news footage of people in Afghanistan truly beginning to LIVE after the defeat of the Taliban.

I'd also suggest you review how many people the Taliban killed and through that review estimate how many would have died had we not helped the Northern Aliance.

Finally, I'd suggest you go live in a Moslem society and see how long you cling to your beliefs.

558 posted on 09/24/2002 10:58:59 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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To: wattsmag2
I'd suggest you go back and review news footage of people in Afghanistan truly beginning to LIVE after the defeat of the Taliban.

Which is exactly why the government in Iran went door to door and confiscated satellite dishes.

559 posted on 09/24/2002 11:02:27 PM PDT by Howlin
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To: Howlin
Howdy Howlin
560 posted on 09/24/2002 11:04:38 PM PDT by wattsmag2
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